{"id":9379,"date":"2013-10-08T11:19:55","date_gmt":"2013-10-08T09:19:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/pokus_sablona\/?p=9379"},"modified":"2019-01-06T11:20:35","modified_gmt":"2019-01-06T10:20:35","slug":"causa-kramny-proc-neverime-egyptskym-lekarum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/ranni-kavy\/causa-kramny-proc-neverime-egyptskym-lekarum.html","title":{"rendered":"CAUSA KRAMN\u00dd: Pro\u010d nev\u011b\u0159\u00edme egyptsk\u00fdm l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016fm?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 57<\/p><p><strong>P\u016fvodn\u011b jsem si myslela, \u017ee dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nek na tohle tolik sledovan\u00e9 a tolik diskutovan\u00e9 t\u00e9ma vyjde a\u017e v moment\u011b, kdy bude jasno. To jsem si ale myslela, \u017ee to nebude trvat tak dlouho, a tak\u00e9 m\u011b nenapadlo, \u017ee pod p\u0159edchoz\u00edm \u010dl\u00e1nkem, kde je kompletn\u00ed shrnut\u00ed fakt\u016f i spekulac\u00ed v p\u0159\u00edpadu, bude kolem t\u0159\u00ed tis\u00edc p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvk\u016f. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Zde si m\u016f\u017eete \u010dl\u00e1nek p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst \u2026.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/prave-ted\/smrt-moniky-a-klarky-at-spekulace-nelikviduji-fakta.html#top\">Smrt Moniky a Kl\u00e1rky: A\u0165 spekulace NElikviduj\u00ed fakta<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bohu\u017eel, firma Leris, kter\u00e1 m\u00e1 na starosti technickou kvalitu magaz\u00ednu reaguje na na\u0161i \u017e\u00e1dost o str\u00e1nkov\u00e1n\u00ed stejn\u011b rychle, jako je mo\u017en\u00e9 dokon\u010dit toxikologick\u00e9 rozbory a ucelit v\u00fdsledky vy\u0161et\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed cauzy Kramn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>D\u00edky tomu, jsem s&nbsp;ohledem na ji\u017e zpomalen\u00e9 na\u010d\u00edt\u00e1n\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nku p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9ho, sv\u00e9 rozhodnut\u00ed nezahltit magaz\u00edn jen panem Kramn\u00fdm, musela pozm\u011bnit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Snad v\u00e1m tedy p\u0159ijde vhod jak\u00fdsi prozat\u00edmn\u00ed souhrn, v\u010detn\u011b m\u00e9ho osobn\u00edho n\u00e1zoru, kter\u00fd se v\u016fbec nemus\u00ed shodovat s&nbsp;n\u00e1zorem redakce a tak\u00e9 mnoh\u00fdch diskutuj\u00edc\u00edch.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>N\u00e1zor je autorsk\u00fd, nikoli redak\u010dn\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Mnoz\u00ed ani netu\u0161\u00ed, pro\u010d je p\u0159\u00edpad tak zaujal a diskutuj\u00ed nad n\u00edm i lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed se v&nbsp;minulosti nikdy \u0159\u00e1dn\u00fdch diskuz\u00ed ne\u00fa\u010dastnili.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Diskutuje na v\u0161ech webech, kter\u00e9 mrskaj\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nky jako na b\u011b\u017e\u00edc\u00edm p\u00e1se.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I za sebe mohu \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee si vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m z&nbsp;minulosti snad na jedin\u00fd srovnateln\u00fd p\u0159\u00edpad, kter\u00fdm bych se zab\u00fdvala i osobn\u011b a to hodn\u011b intenzivn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Mo\u017en\u00e1 je to t\u00edm, \u017ee jde o d\u00edt\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V&nbsp;P\u0158\u00cdPADU RODINY KRAMN\u00ddCH V\u00cdME UR\u010cIT\u011a, \u017dE:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;noci z&nbsp;29.7. na 30.7. zem\u0159ela v&nbsp;Egypt\u011b mlad\u00e1 maminka a jej\u00ed osmilet\u00e1 dcerka Monika a Kl\u00e1rka Kramn\u00fdch.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;pokoji, kde k&nbsp;ud\u00e1losti do\u0161lo, nebyl p\u0159\u00edtomen nikdo jin\u00fd, ne\u017e otec rodiny, Petr Kramn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ob\u011b zem\u0159ely n\u00e1hle, mezi 23:30 a p\u016flnoc\u00ed a otec volal o pomoc kr\u00e1tce p\u0159ed \u010dtvrtou hodinou r\u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Podle slov pana Kramn\u00e9ho, kter\u00e1 je mo\u017en\u00e9 ov\u011b\u0159it v&nbsp;\u010dl\u00e1nku v&nbsp;odkazu shora, bylo cel\u00e9 rodin\u011b osudn\u00fd den a noc \u0161patn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>M\u011bli pr\u016fjem, zvraceli.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd do umyvadla, pan\u00ed Monika d\u00edlem do kybl\u00edku a d\u00edlem z\u0159ejm\u011b do toalety.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Stav jeho pan\u00ed as dcery se podle slov pana Kramn\u00e9ho zlep\u0161oval, jeho se hor\u0161il.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Podle sv\u00fdch slov zvracel i 15x do hodiny.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Po celou dobu nespal.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>P\u0159inesl odpoledne dvakr\u00e1t vodu na pit\u00ed, pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b z&nbsp;rezervo\u00e1ru, kter\u00fd je um\u00edst\u011bn\u00fd na recepci hotelu Titanic Palace, kde k&nbsp;ud\u00e1losti do\u0161lo.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Posledn\u00ed vstup &nbsp;do pokoje byl zaznamen\u00e1n dve\u0159n\u00ed kartou ve 20:30.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Od t\u00e9to chv\u00edle karta dal\u0161\u00ed \u00fadaje nab\u00edz\u00ed a\u017e nad r\u00e1nem, kdy\u017e otec jako prvn\u00ed alarmoval sousedku z&nbsp;vedlej\u0161\u00edho pokoje, kterou zavolal na m\u00edsto, kde nalezl svou rodinu bez zn\u00e1mek \u017eivota.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B\u011bhem ve\u010dera a noci podle jeho slov nic nevid\u011bl, ani nesly\u0161el, \u017ee by se jeho rodin\u011b p\u0159it\u00ed\u017eilo.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>On s\u00e1m chodil st\u00e1le zvracet, p\u0159i \u010dem\u017e za sebou poka\u017ed\u00e9 zav\u0159el dve\u0159e a nerozsv\u011bcel jinde, ne\u017eli v&nbsp;koupeln\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nehr\u00e1la televize.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Po t\u00e9, co nalezl svou pan\u00ed a Kl\u00e1rku se, dle sv\u00fdch slov, sna\u017eil ob\u011b resuscitovat, p\u0159i \u010dem\u017e tak \u010dinil u osob, kter\u00e9 byly tou dobou ji\u017e p\u0159es t\u0159i hodiny po smrti, co\u017e netu\u0161il, a\u010dkoli uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee jeho pan\u00ed m\u011bla otev\u0159en\u00e9 o\u010di.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cel\u00e1 videa s&nbsp;osobn\u00edmi popisy ud\u00e1losti si m\u016f\u017eete prohl\u00e9dnout v&nbsp;\u010dl\u00e1nku zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9m v\u00fd\u0161e.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PRO\u010c NEV\u011a\u0158IT EGYPTSK\u00ddM L\u00c9KA\u0158\u016eM?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Popis ud\u00e1lost\u00ed onoho osudn\u00e9ho dne a noci se dalece a t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 ve v\u0161ech bodech neslu\u010duje s&nbsp;vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00edm egyptsk\u00fdch l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Z&nbsp;prvotn\u00edho ohled\u00e1n\u00ed tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee t\u011bla maminky a dcerky le\u017eela zemi, nikoli na posteli.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Z&nbsp;prvotn\u00edch v\u00fdsledk\u016f pitvy prohla\u0161uj\u00ed, \u017ee ani Monika ani Kl\u00e1rka nem\u011bly za\u017e\u00edvac\u00ed probl\u00e9my a jejich org\u00e1ny nejevily zn\u00e1mky pr\u016fjmu.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Ze stavu \u017ealudku obou vyhodnotili, \u017ee se otr\u00e1vily prudk\u00fdm jedem, kter\u00fd prakticky zlikvidoval jejich \u017ealudky.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee zem\u0159ely t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 ve stejn\u00fd okam\u017eik.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>P\u0159ivolan\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159 rovn\u011b\u017e popisuje polohu Kl\u00e1rky jako polohu se vzty\u010den\u00fdma rukama a u pan\u00ed Moniky popisuje jakousi \u0161krabo\u0161ku, kter\u00e1 se podle n\u011bho pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 na span\u00ed, a kterou m\u011bla m\u00edt pan\u00ed Monika na o\u010d\u00edch.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B\u011bhem cel\u00e9ho \u010dek\u00e1n\u00ed na v\u00fdsledky pitvy a toxikologick\u00e9ho rozboru vzniklo mnoho spekulac\u00ed a vy\u0161lo mnoho \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016f, kter\u00e9 zpochyb\u0148uj\u00ed vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed egyptsk\u00fdch l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016f a odborn\u00edk\u016f, a kter\u00e9 rovn\u011b\u017e zna\u010dn\u011b zpochyb\u0148uj\u00ed cel\u00fd pr\u016fb\u011bh vy\u0161et\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed v&nbsp;Egypt\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd je nucen v&nbsp;t\u00e9to turisticky obl\u00edben\u00e9 destinaci vy\u010dkat, dokud nebude vy\u0161et\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed skon\u010deno.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Egyptsk\u00e9 \u00fa\u0159ady zak\u00e1zaly opakovan\u011b panu Kramn\u00e9mu vycestovat.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd nen\u00ed oficieln\u011b veden jako podez\u0159el\u00fd, ale jako jedin\u00fd sv\u011bdek, a proto se st\u00e1tn\u00ed z\u00e1stupce rozhodl, \u017ee mu odjezd do \u010ceska nepovol\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na\u0161e zem\u011b nem\u00e1 s&nbsp;Egyptem \u017e\u00e1dnou smlouvu, kter\u00e1 by umo\u017e\u0148ovala vyd\u00e1vat osoby k&nbsp;trestn\u00edmu st\u00edh\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd je ubytov\u00e1n v&nbsp;hotelu s&nbsp;penz\u00ed, je mu umo\u017en\u011bn voln\u00fd pohyb a ubytov\u00e1n\u00ed hrad\u00ed cestovn\u00ed kancel\u00e1\u0159 Blue Style, se kterou Kramn\u00ed na dovolenou jeli.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pokud bychom si m\u011bli polo\u017eit adekv\u00e1tn\u00ed ot\u00e1zku, na kterou nav\u00e1d\u00ed zdej\u0161\u00edmi m\u00e9dii vyvolan\u00e1 ned\u016fv\u011bra k&nbsp;egyptsk\u00fdm l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016fm, byla by to ot\u00e1zka:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pochybovali bychom o slovech l\u00e9ka\u0159\u016f, pokud by se ud\u00e1lost stala t\u0159eba v&nbsp;N\u011bmecku, Anglii, USA a jin\u00fdch, pro n\u00e1s d\u016fv\u011bryhodn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch zem\u00edch?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Patrn\u011b ne.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kde je tedy naps\u00e1no, \u017ee vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed tak\u00e9 studovali medic\u00ednu a tak\u00e9 zachra\u0148uj\u00ed \u017eivoty, kte\u0159\u00ed panu Kramn\u00e9mu poskytli prvn\u00ed pomoc a dokonce na jeho vlastn\u00ed \u017e\u00e1dost vypumpovali \u017ealudek, n\u00e1sledn\u011b ho zcela standardn\u011b jako jinde, napojili na um\u011blou v\u00fd\u017eivu, a po t\u00e9 uvedli, \u017ee po celou dobu hospitalizace nem\u011bl pan Kramn\u00fd \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 za\u017e\u00edvac\u00ed pot\u00ed\u017ee, je vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed l\u017eiv\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pokud \u0159ekne egyptsk\u00fd l\u00e9ka\u0159 a odborn\u00edk na kameru, \u017ee org\u00e1ny zem\u0159el\u00fdch nevykazuj\u00ed jak\u00fdkoli d\u016fvod si myslet, \u017ee osoba p\u0159ed smrt\u00ed zvracela a m\u011bla pr\u016fjem, pro\u010d m\u00e1 b\u00fdt jeho d\u016fv\u011bryhodnost men\u0161\u00ed, ne\u017e vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed l\u00e9ka\u0159e z&nbsp;jin\u00e9 zem\u011b, kter\u00fd m\u00e1 k&nbsp;dispozici stejn\u00e9 vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed a stejn\u00e9 technick\u00e9 vybaven\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Proto\u017ee je Egyp\u0165an?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>U m\u011b je to l\u00e9ka\u0159, kter\u00fd pou\u017eil p\u0159i o\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed pana Kramn\u00e9ho stejn\u00fd postup, jak\u00fd by zvolil l\u00e9ka\u0159 zde a kdekoli jinde.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tud\u00ed\u017e nem\u00e1m d\u016fvod nev\u011b\u0159it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u00e1m ale jako mysl\u00edc\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk d\u016fvod nev\u011b\u0159it slov\u016fm pana Kramn\u00e9ho.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee ob\u011b zvracely a m\u011bly pr\u016fjem prakticky cel\u00e9 dopoledne a p\u0159es poledne, co\u017e l\u00e9ka\u0159i vylu\u010duj\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee jeho pan\u00ed zvracela do kybl\u00edku a sed\u011bla p\u0159itom na z\u00e1chod\u011b, p\u0159i \u010dem\u017e k&nbsp;vybaven\u00ed pokoj\u016f kybl\u00edky nepat\u0159\u00ed. Pokud kybl\u00edkem nem\u00ednil pan Kramn\u00fd ko\u0161 na odpadky.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee v&nbsp;pokoji byla ve\u010der tma d\u00edlem p\u0159irozen\u00e1 a d\u00edlem ze zata\u017een\u00fdch z\u00e1v\u011bs\u016f, pro\u010de\u017e si nemohl v\u0161imnout, \u017ee po p\u016flnoci jeho bl\u00edzk\u00e9 ji\u017e ne\u017eij\u00ed, a ani nemohl vid\u011bt, \u017ee by n\u011bco pily, m\u011bly k\u0159e\u010de, \u010di se jakkoli projevily, ale z&nbsp;jeho slov je patrn\u00e9, \u017ee se po pokoji orientoval, vzal vodu ze stolku a dokonce zaznamenal, \u017ee jeho \u017eena, kter\u00e1 byla ji\u017e mrtv\u00e1, nem\u00e1 spodn\u00ed pr\u00e1dlo.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>P\u0159esto\u017ee tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee nebyla pu\u0161t\u011bn\u00e1 televize a tedy bylo v&nbsp;pokoji ticho, uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee naprosto nic nesly\u0161el.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Tedy nesly\u0161el, \u017ee by Monika nebo Kl\u00e1rka vzdychaly, \u010di se jakkoli projevily.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pokoj, na kter\u00e9m se trag\u00e9die stala je cca 30m2 velk\u00fd, nem\u00e1 \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 z\u00e1kout\u00ed a na postele, kde le\u017eely je vid\u011bt z&nbsp;ka\u017ed\u00e9ho \u00fahlu m\u00edstnosti.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/11340YWU.jpg\" alt=\"11340YWU.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Postel, na kter\u00e9 le\u017eela Kl\u00e1rka, je jen kousek od vstupu do chodbi\u010dky s&nbsp;koupelnou a dle slov pana Kramn\u00e9ho le\u017eela Kl\u00e1rka na boku \u010delem ke koupeln\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;jin\u00e9 verzi sv\u00e9ho popisu ud\u00e1losti, ale Pan Kramn\u00fd uvedl, \u017ee jeho dcerka le\u017eela v&nbsp;polosed\u011b s&nbsp;rukama p\u0159ed obli\u010dejem.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Uvedl rovn\u011b\u017e, \u017ee na nesrovnalost s&nbsp;jej\u00edm stavem, p\u0159i\u0161el tak, \u017ee cht\u011bl dcerku posunout, proto\u017ee si cht\u011bl lehnout.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;jin\u00e9 verzi uvedl, \u017ee ji budil, aby se napila.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee jeho \u017eena m\u011bla, kdy\u017e j\u00ed cht\u011bl probudit, \u017ee se n\u011bco stalo, otev\u0159en\u00e9 o\u010di.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>1. &nbsp;M\u011bla-li onu masku na span\u00ed, pt\u00e1m se, jak to mohl vid\u011bt.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>2. &nbsp;Nev\u00edm, zdali se \u010dlov\u011bk rozhodne resuscitovat osobu, kter\u00e1 je mrtv\u00e1, patrn\u011b ji\u017e i posmrtn\u011b ztuhl\u00e1 a m\u00e1 otev\u0159en\u00e9 o\u010di.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je v\u016fbec mo\u017en\u00e9, uv\u011b\u0159it tvrzen\u00ed, \u017ee od r\u00e1na jednoho dne do p\u016flnoci, si bd\u011bl\u00e1 osoba nen\u00ed schopna na n\u011bkolika \u010dtvere\u010dn\u00edch metrech v\u0161imnout, \u017ee v&nbsp;jej\u00ed bezprost\u0159edn\u00ed bl\u00edzkosti, po\u017eily dv\u011b osoby prudk\u00fd jed a na n\u00e1sledky jeho p\u016fsoben\u00ed zem\u0159ely?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je mo\u017en\u00e9, aby si tato osoba nev\u0161imla, \u017ee maj\u00ed zdravotn\u00ed probl\u00e9my, \u017ee um\u00edraj\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je mo\u017en\u00e9, aby si bd\u011bl\u00e1 osoba t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 \u010dty\u0159i hodiny nev\u0161imla, kdy\u017e si sed\u00e1 na postel ke sv\u00e9 \u017een\u011b, zar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed se nad absenc\u00ed jej\u00edho spodn\u00edho pr\u00e1dla a ul\u00e9h\u00e1 k&nbsp;d\u00edt\u011bti, \u017ee ob\u011b tyto osoby ji\u017e hodiny ne\u017eij\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je mo\u017en\u00e9, jeden den a noc zvracet 15x v&nbsp;hodin\u011b, tedy jednou za 4-5 minut? To je 16 hodin a nevolat l\u00e9ka\u0159e?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To, \u010demu se pan Kramn\u00fd sna\u017e\u00ed, aby ve\u0159ejnost uv\u011b\u0159ila je, \u017ee:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zat\u00edmco on zvracel v&nbsp;m\u00edstnosti, jej\u00ed\u017e vchod je p\u0159\u00edmo u dve\u0159\u00ed, kter\u00e9 se otev\u00edraj\u00ed elektronickou kartou, a ka\u017ed\u00e9 otev\u0159en\u00ed dve\u0159\u00ed zven\u010d\u00ed je zaznamen\u00e1no, p\u0159i\u0161el n\u011bkdo do pokoje, svl\u00e9kl jeho \u017eenu, p\u0159inutil ji vyp\u00edt jed, p\u0159inutil k&nbsp;tomut\u00e9\u017e jeho dceru, to cel\u00e9 v&nbsp;naprost\u00e9 tichosti, pak zase ode\u0161el a posti\u017een\u00e9 n\u00e1sledn\u011b zcela bez jak\u00fdchkoli hlasov\u00fdch \u010di fyzick\u00fdch reakc\u00ed zem\u0159ely, ani\u017e by si on byl schopen \u010dehokoli v\u0161imnout.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/11339OTc.jpg\" alt=\"11339OTc.jpg\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nem\u00e1m jin\u00e9 logick\u00e9 vysv\u011btlen\u00ed k&nbsp;verzi podan\u00e9 panem Kramn\u00fdm, ne\u017e \u017ee nemluv\u00ed pravdu.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nech\u00e1v\u00e1m stranou n\u00e1sledn\u00e9 chov\u00e1n\u00ed, reakce a jedn\u00e1n\u00ed pana Kramn\u00e9ho, proto\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk je jin\u00fd a psychika \u010dlov\u011bka m\u00e1 z\u00e1kout\u00ed, kter\u00e1 jsou zcela individu\u00e1ln\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>To, co ned\u00e1v\u00e1 smysl, je v\u00edce technick\u00e1 str\u00e1nka popisu ud\u00e1losti a podivn\u00e9 chov\u00e1n\u00ed pana Kramn\u00e9ho je pouze subjektivn\u00edm hodnocen\u00edm ka\u017ed\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Smysl ale v&nbsp;tomto p\u0159\u00edpadu, ned\u00e1v\u00e1 ze strany pana Kramn\u00e9ho prozat\u00edm v\u016fbec nic.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Naopak. Podle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru, zat\u00edm neexistuje d\u016fvod, pro kter\u00fd bychom pohybovali o pravdivost slov odborn\u00edk\u016f na medic\u00ednu, jejich\u017e vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed logiku nepostr\u00e1d\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozhovor s&nbsp;na\u0161imi odborn\u00edky na soudn\u00ed l\u00e9ka\u0159stv\u00ed a toxikologii si m\u016f\u017eete p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst zde:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/telo\/co-mohlo-otravit-moniku-a-klarku-rozhovor-se-soudnim-lekarem-a-toxikologem.html\">Co mohlo otr\u00e1vit Moniku a Kl\u00e1rku? Rozhovor se soudn\u00edm l\u00e9ka\u0159em a toxikologem<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tento t\u00fdden, by pan Kramn\u00fd m\u011bl b\u00fdt, dle informac\u00ed z&nbsp;m\u00e9di\u00ed konfrontov\u00e1n s&nbsp;v\u00fdsledky pitvy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pro osv\u011btlen\u00ed p\u0159ikl\u00e1d\u00e1m odkaz na \u010dl\u00e1nek, na kter\u00fd jste m\u011b uporoznili, vy, \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i, ve kter\u00e9m pan Kramn\u00fd uv\u00e1d\u00ed zase zcela jin\u00e9 um\u00edst\u011bn\u00ed sp\u00edc\u00ed Kl\u00e1rky a Moniky toho osdun\u00e9ho ve\u010dera.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pop\u00edr\u00e1 tedy minim\u00e1ln\u011b dv\u011b verze, kter\u00e9 poskytl m\u00e9di\u00edm na kameru a to pom\u011brn\u011b z\u00e1sadn\u00edm zp\u016fsobem. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Podle t\u00e9to nov\u00e9 verze le\u017eela Kl\u00e1rka i Monika na jedn\u00e9 posteli, kter\u00e1 byla d\u00e1l od balkonu. Tedy, le\u017eely na jedn\u00e9 posteli. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee postel u balkonu byla pr\u00e1zdn\u00e1.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ot\u00e1zka, kter\u00e1 napad\u00e1 ka\u017ed\u00e9ho v tu chv\u00edli nen\u00ed jedna, ale je jich hned n\u011bkolik. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jak mohla b\u00fdt jedna zem\u0159ela osoba dvakr\u00e1t ze dvou stran pohledu poka\u017ed\u00e9 z\u00e1dy k panu Kramn\u00e9mu , viz \u010dl\u00e1nek:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/prave-ted\/muze-se-mrtvy-clovek-otocit-pane-kramny.html\">M\u016f\u017ee se mrtv\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk oto\u010dit, pane Kramn\u00fd?<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>A pro\u010d si v\u016fbec lehal k dce\u0159i a man\u017eelce, kdy\u017e m\u011bl pr\u00e1zdnou postel?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pokud by to bylo tak, \u017ee le\u017eely ka\u017ed\u00e1 na jedn\u00e9 posteli, ale Monika u koupelny, pak pan Kramn\u00fd l\u017ee na kameru v rozhovoru pro TV Nova, kter\u00e9 asi vid\u011bl u\u017e ka\u017ed\u00fd.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZDE :<\/strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/zpravy.idnes.cz\/petr-kramny-rozhovor-0to-\/domaci.aspx?c=A131007_141406_domaci_jav\">http:\/\/zpravy.idnes.cz\/petr-kramny-rozhovor-0to-\/domaci.aspx?c=A131007_141406_domaci_jav<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee si dok\u00e1\u017ee obr\u00e1tit tak z\u00e1sadn\u00ed v\u011bc, jakou je to, kde vlastn\u011b na\u0161el dceru a kde \u017eenu.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Michaela Kudl\u00e1\u010dkov\u00e1<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>[sexy_author_bio]<\/p>\n<hr>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 57P\u016fvodn\u011b jsem si myslela, \u017ee dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nek na tohle tolik sledovan\u00e9 a tolik diskutovan\u00e9 t\u00e9ma vyjde a\u017e v moment\u011b, kdy bude jasno. To jsem si ale myslela, \u017ee to nebude trvat tak dlouho, a tak\u00e9 m\u011b nenapadlo, \u017ee pod p\u0159edchoz\u00edm \u010dl\u00e1nkem, kde je kompletn\u00ed shrnut\u00ed fakt\u016f i spekulac\u00ed v p\u0159\u00edpadu, bude kolem t\u0159\u00ed tis\u00edc [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9379","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ranni-kavy"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.3 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"P\u016fvodn\u011b jsem si myslela, \u017ee dal\u0161\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nek na tohle tolik sledovan\u00e9 a tolik diskutovan\u00e9 t\u00e9ma vyjde a\u017e v moment\u011b, kdy bude jasno. 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