{"id":9339,"date":"2013-12-22T11:53:04","date_gmt":"2013-12-22T10:53:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/pokus_sablona\/?p=9339"},"modified":"2019-01-05T11:57:39","modified_gmt":"2019-01-05T10:57:39","slug":"petr-kramny-zpoved-narcise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/ranni-kavy\/petr-kramny-zpoved-narcise.html","title":{"rendered":"Petr Kramn\u00fd: Zpov\u011b\u010f narcise"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 588<\/p><p><strong>Jak n\u011bkdo spr\u00e1vn\u011b do diskuze u p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9ho \u010dl\u00e1nku zm\u00ednil, cht\u011blo by to chv\u00edli pana Kramn\u00e9ho ne\u0159e\u0161it. Ale je pravda, \u017ee \u201ecopak to jde?\u201c <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Po nahr\u00e1vce, kterou zve\u0159ejnila tn.cz, <a href=\"http:\/\/tn.nova.cz\/zpravy\/cernakronika\/utajena-zpoved-kramneho-takhle-popsal-smrt-moniky-a-klarky-pad-dnu-pote-audio.html\"><strong>ZDE<\/strong><\/a> a kterou dle m\u00e9ho tak trochu takticky uvolnila policie, nelze nereagovat.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee slova pana Kramn\u00e9ho musela zah\u00fdbat m\u00edn\u011bn\u00edm na obou stran\u00e1ch barik\u00e1dy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je to siln\u00e9, je to emotivn\u00ed a je to bohu\u017eel, tak\u00e9 velice nep\u011bkn\u00e9\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je prazvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed, kterak v&nbsp;jedn\u00e9 f\u00e1zi&nbsp; &#8211; a neboj\u00edm se to napsat, je to osobn\u00ed n\u00e1zor &#8211; t\u00e9hle srdceryvn\u00e9 \u0161ar\u00e1dy, pan Kramn\u00fd pl\u00e1\u010de, pros\u00ed o pomoc a du\u0161uje se, jak je nevinn\u00fd, i jak Moniku miloval, a o chv\u00edli pozd\u011bji z&nbsp;t\u00e9to pan\u00ed, sv\u00e9 man\u017eelky, z&nbsp;toho \u201emilovan\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka\u201c, ud\u011blal bezcennou lh\u00e1\u0159ku a ve fin\u00e1le potencion\u00e1ln\u00ed vra\u017eedkyni.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pan Kramn\u00fd by vedle skute\u010dn\u00e9ho vztahu ke sv\u00e9 \u017een\u011b, kter\u00fd byl patrn\u011b patologick\u00fd a majetnick\u00fd, m\u011bl vysv\u011btlit n\u011bkolik v\u011bc\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vzala bych po bodech, co m\u011b osobn\u011b ned\u00e1v\u00e1 logiku a to jsem poslouchala jeho zpov\u011b\u010f jen jednou. (p\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1m, \u017ee odborn\u00edci, ji rozebrali na \u0161roubky)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>1.<\/strong> Za\u010dal ned\u011bl\u00ed a hovo\u0159il o kr\u00e1mc\u00edch, kde si v&nbsp;jednom Monika nechala zmen\u0161it prst\u00fdnek. Pravil, \u017ee obchodn\u00edk sl\u00edbil \u201edo z\u00edtra velikost vy\u0159e\u0161it a d\u00e1t k&nbsp;vyzvednut\u00ed\u201c. Po t\u00e9 doplnil, \u017ee tedy v&nbsp;\u00fater\u00fd. P\u0159esko\u010dil osudn\u00e9 pond\u011bl\u00ed n\u00e1hodou, nebo podv\u011bdom\u011b? Z\u00edtra m\u011blo b\u00fdt toti\u017e pond\u011bl\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>2<\/strong>. Ano, kdybl\u00edk. Vysv\u011btluje, \u017ee man\u017eelka zvracela do ko\u0161e na odpadky, kter\u00fd po sob\u011b vym\u00fdvala. Pt\u00e1m se, jak se d\u00e1 vym\u00fdvat ko\u0161 s&nbsp;d\u00edrami, ve kter\u00e9m je igelitov\u00fd s\u00e1\u010dek?<em> (ko\u0161e jsme vid\u011bli, jak vypadaj\u00ed a v\u00edme to ji\u017e i ze slov t\u011bch, kdo v&nbsp;hotelu byli. Tak\u017ee kybl\u00edk mi nevysv\u011btlil)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>3<\/strong>.Ve dvan\u00e1ct cht\u011bl, aby man\u017eelka \u0161la pro vodu, ale vydal se pro ni v&nbsp;jednu. To j\u00ed hodinu p\u0159emlouval?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>4<\/strong>. \u0158\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee norm\u00e1ln\u011b fungovali. P\u0159itom, ale man\u017eelce bylo zle tak, \u017ee nemohla pro vodu.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>5<\/strong>. Moinika cht\u011bla zavolat l\u00e9ka\u0159e, ale nedovolala se. Tak j\u00ed tedy asi nebylo tak dob\u0159e, jak Kramn\u00fd tvrd\u00ed. To zaprv\u00e9 a za druh\u00e9, pro\u010d ho nevolal s\u00e1m? Pro\u010d j\u00ed nepomohl? Pro\u010d ho nezavolal sob\u011b, kdy\u017e l\u00ed\u010d\u00ed, jak mu bylo \u0161patn\u011b?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>6.<\/strong> Bylo mu tak zle, \u017ee zvracel &nbsp;co chvilku, ale pro vodu \u0161el pomal\u00fdm krokem\u2026bez logiky. Bez koment\u00e1\u0159e.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>7<\/strong>. Vyz\u00fdv\u00e1 ji v&nbsp;duchu a\u0165 jde pro vodu, ale ona na to odpov\u00edd\u00e1? (Nech\u00e1pu. &nbsp;Odpov\u00edd\u00e1, \u017ee j\u00ed je st\u00e1le zle, p\u0159ed t\u00edm se sna\u017eila volat ne\u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b l\u00e9ka\u0159e, on tam o chv\u00edli pozd\u011bji jde, je p\u0159\u00edmo u recepce a op\u011bt nem\u00e1 pot\u0159ebu j\u00ed pomoct? \u0158\u00edct si o doktora, kdy\u017e v\u011bd\u011bl, \u017ee ho cht\u011bla volat?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>8.<\/strong> Na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee kolem 22,30 se jim poda\u0159ilo usnout, ale vz\u00e1p\u011bt\u00ed o t\u00e9 sam\u00e9 dob\u011b tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee se man\u017eelka oto\u010dila a \u201evyblila se\u201c a \u0159\u00edkala mu, a\u0165 si vezme kolu.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>9.<\/strong> Naprosto nerozum\u00edm tomuhle: &nbsp;\u201eDcera to nena\u0159edila, ta by to vylila\u201c<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>10.<\/strong> Jak v\u00ed, \u017ee si m\u011bly st\u011b\u017eovat na zt\u00ed\u017een\u00e9 d\u00fdchan\u00ed ????<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bylo by toho v\u00edc a jist\u011b nejsem sama, kdo si nesrovnalost\u00ed v\u0161iml.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e1le mi unik\u00e1 a lidsky nesed\u00ed, \u017ee o \u010dlov\u011bku kter\u00e9ho, jak tvrd\u00ed tolik miloval, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 slova jako:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>&#8222;Zap\u00e1chala potem, pokadila se, vyblila se, koukal j\u00ed zadek, <\/strong><\/em>vytahuje v\u011bci jako<em><strong> \u201eaby j\u00ed tam n\u011bco nevlezlo\u201c<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;<em> (je dost probl\u00e9m toho \u010dlov\u011bka poslouchat a v\u011bd\u011bt, \u017ee mluv\u00ed o tragicky zem\u0159el\u00e9 osob\u011b, kterou miloval.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>N\u00e1sledn\u011b sd\u011bluje, \u017ee tahle milovan\u00e1 bytost:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>m\u011bla na FB 57 chlap\u016f (m\u00e1 je spo\u010d\u00edtan\u00e9)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>doslova um\u00ed nazpam\u011b\u0165 a dok\u00e1\u017ee si vybavit celou jej\u00ed konverzaci s&nbsp;jak\u00fdmsi mu\u017eem, o kter\u00e9m si zjistil, \u017ee je \u017eenat\u00fd a m\u00e1 dv\u011b d\u011bti.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>klidn\u011b uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee j\u00ed \u0161pehoval konverzace a n\u00e1sledn\u011b j\u00ed d\u011blal \u00fapravy v&nbsp;jej\u00edm vlastn\u00edm profilu, kter\u00e9 si vym\u00ednil.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>dot\u010den\u011b \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, \u017ee tam ona m\u011bla m\u00e1lo fotek s&nbsp;n\u00edm, zat\u00edmco jej\u00ed kamar\u00e1dky jich tam m\u011bly hodn\u011b. Tvrd\u00ed \u017ee je laik, ale proj\u00ed\u017ed\u011bl&nbsp; \u201ezdi\u201c a pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 facebookovou terminologii. Nav\u00edc se jako \u201elaik\u201c orientuje v&nbsp;profilech, soukrom\u00fdch zpr\u00e1v\u00e1ch, upravuje \u00fadaje a dokonce mimod\u011bk p\u0159izn\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee s&nbsp;FB to um\u00ed l\u00edp, ne\u017e ona, proto\u017ee on jej\u00ed stav zm\u011bnit dok\u00e1zal bez probl\u00e9mu.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>dok\u00e1zal j\u00ed zru\u0161it FB! Kdy\u017e pominu fakt, \u017ee nerozum\u00edm tomu, jak si to mohl dovolit a co to vypov\u00edd\u00e1 o n\u011bm, je to docela na laika borec.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Mezi t\u00edmhle v\u0161\u00edm vypravov\u00e1n\u00edm uboh\u00e9ho man\u017eela, kter\u00e9mu man\u017eelka nejsp\u00ed\u0161 zah\u00fdbala, a kter\u00fd to dovedl tak daleko, \u017ee chodila na FB k&nbsp;sousedce, kter\u00fd si vym\u00ednil kontrolu nad jej\u00edm soukrom\u00edm a lustroval si jej\u00ed zn\u00e1m\u00e9, n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee to <strong>NEBRAL V&nbsp;POTAZ.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u010clov\u011bk, kter\u00fd nebere n\u011bco v&nbsp;potaz, se nechov\u00e1 jako despota, nevyhro\u017euje sv\u00e9 \u017een\u011b existen\u010dn\u00edmi probl\u00e9my, nevyhrot\u00ed situaci tak, \u017ee je nucena mu d\u011blat v\u011bci za z\u00e1dy\u2026bylo by toho hodn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/12286YzE.jpg\" alt=\"12286YzE.jpg\" \/>Nechci si p\u0159edstavovat, jak ten vztah vypadal, ale je mi jasn\u00e9, \u017ee kamar\u00e1dka, se kterou na Popelk\u00e1ch vznikl rozhovor, mluvila pravdu.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nech\u00e1v\u00e1m bez koment\u00e1\u0159e jeho v\u00fdrok, \u017ee pan\u00ed Monika minim\u00e1ln\u011b 10x m\u011bla zm\u00ednit \u017ee<em> \u201ekdyby se j\u00ed n\u011bco stalo, nechce, aby z\u016fstal s\u00e1m\u201c.<\/em> To snad ani komentovat nejde a v\u011b\u0159it tomu tak\u00e9 ne.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bez koment\u00e1\u0159e nech\u00e1v\u00e1m i v\u00fdrok, \u017ee je vlastn\u011b mo\u017en\u00e1 cht\u011bla otr\u00e1vit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u016fj osobn\u00ed z\u00e1v\u011br :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd se t\u00edmhle monologem p\u0159edstavil jako naru\u0161en\u00fd, chorobn\u011b \u017e\u00e1rliv\u00fd, zl\u00fd, netaktn\u00ed a v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b hloup\u00fd mu\u017e, kter\u00fd svou \u017eenu ve skute\u010dnosti nen\u00e1vid\u011bl.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kter\u00fd se j\u00ed nestyd\u00ed pon\u00ed\u017eit ani po smrti, kter\u00fd trp\u00ed komplexem m\u00e9n\u011bcennosti, a kter\u00fd si n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem te\u010f u\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 satisfakci, jako OB\u011a\u0164 zh\u00fdral\u00e9 man\u017eelky.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>M\u016fj osobn\u00ed n\u00e1zor je ten, \u017ee se projevil jako \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd by n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho, jako otr\u00e1vit svou pan\u00ed a pak se i d\u00edvat na to, jak trp\u00ed, z\u0159ejm\u011b dok\u00e1zal.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jednodu\u0161e proto, \u017ee nepopisuje bytost, kterou miloval, ale \u017eenu, kter\u00e9 si nev\u00e1\u017eil, kterou pohrdal, proto\u017ee ho cht\u011bla opustit. Kter\u00e1 s&nbsp;n\u00edm necht\u011bla b\u00fdt, proto\u017ee j\u00ed utiskoval, kter\u00e1 si ho na FB odstranila i &#8222;ze vztahu&#8220;\u2026 a to v\u0161echno jednodu\u0161e proto, \u017ee cht\u011bla ze vztahu s&nbsp;n\u00edm i ve skute\u010dnosti odej\u00edt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A on P\u0158ECE PRO RODINU \u017dIL.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ona pro zachov\u00e1n\u00ed jeho p\u0159edstavy musela zem\u0159\u00edt i s&nbsp;jejich dcerou.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V&nbsp;\u017eivot\u011b jsem nesly\u0161ela nic tak sugestivn\u00edho a pln\u00e9ho skryt\u00e9 z\u00e1\u0161ti a necitelnosti.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nesetkala jsem se s&nbsp;takto projevenou sebel\u00e1skou a\u017e narcismem<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nikdy jsem nem\u011bla mo\u017enost poslouchat n\u011bco tak schizofrenn\u00edho, jako byla tahle \u201ezpov\u011b\u010f miluj\u00edc\u00edho man\u017eela\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kdyby existoval paragraf na bezp\u00e1te\u0159nost, u\u017e by pan Kramn\u00fd sed\u011bl.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je mi z t\u00e9 nahr\u00e1vky smutno.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>M\u00ed\u0161a K.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>[sexy_author_bio]<\/p>\n<hr>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 588Jak n\u011bkdo spr\u00e1vn\u011b do diskuze u p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9ho \u010dl\u00e1nku zm\u00ednil, cht\u011blo by to chv\u00edli pana Kramn\u00e9ho ne\u0159e\u0161it. Ale je pravda, \u017ee \u201ecopak to jde?\u201c &nbsp; Po nahr\u00e1vce, kterou zve\u0159ejnila tn.cz, ZDE a kterou dle m\u00e9ho tak trochu takticky uvolnila policie, nelze nereagovat. &nbsp; V\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee slova pana Kramn\u00e9ho musela zah\u00fdbat m\u00edn\u011bn\u00edm na obou stran\u00e1ch barik\u00e1dy. [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9339","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ranni-kavy"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.3 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jak n\u011bkdo spr\u00e1vn\u011b do diskuze u p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9ho \u010dl\u00e1nku zm\u00ednil, cht\u011blo by to chv\u00edli pana Kramn\u00e9ho ne\u0159e\u0161it. 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