{"id":3021,"date":"2014-05-02T12:09:05","date_gmt":"2014-05-02T10:09:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/pokus_sablona\/?p=3021"},"modified":"2018-08-02T12:10:02","modified_gmt":"2018-08-02T10:10:02","slug":"rozhovor-ivan-jonak-prvni-cast-jestli-bych-nekomu-rad-neco-vratil-ano-svym-dceram-18-let","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/spolecnost\/rozhovor-ivan-jonak-prvni-cast-jestli-bych-nekomu-rad-neco-vratil-ano-svym-dceram-18-let.html","title":{"rendered":"ROZHOVOR &#8211; IVAN JON\u00c1K (prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st): Jestli bych n\u011bkomu r\u00e1d n\u011bco vr\u00e1til? ANO, sv\u00fdm dcer\u00e1m 18 let!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 315<\/p><div class=\"article_text\">\n<p><strong>Jsem te\u010f r\u00e1da, \u017ee ke sl\u00edben\u00e9mu rozhovoru s&nbsp;panem Ivanem Jon\u00e1kem, kter\u00fd jsem v\u00e1m sl\u00edbila uskute\u010dnit bezprost\u0159edn\u011b, co odlo\u017e\u00ed v\u011bze\u0148sk\u00e9 \u0161aty, nakonec v&nbsp;den jeho propu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed nedo\u0161lo. Zkraje m\u011b to mrzelo a pan Jon\u00e1k, tak\u00e9 zm\u00ednil, \u017ee n\u00e1s vyhl\u00ed\u017eel, ale mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v&nbsp;ten den, bychom nad rozhovorem nebyli schopni str\u00e1vit t\u0159i hodiny. A byla by to \u0161koda. Vr\u00e1tka u domku n\u00e1m p\u0159i\u0161la otev\u0159\u00edt jeho dcera Veronika. Pan Jon\u00e1k velmi \u0161patn\u011b chod\u00ed\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article_text\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13860NWE.jpg\" alt=\"13860NWE.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Dlu\u017eno \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee prvn\u00ed dojem, kter\u00fd se \u010dlov\u011bku naskytl, vlastn\u011b v\u016fbec nep\u016fsobil tak, \u017ee pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00edme do bytu \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd str\u00e1vil za m\u0159\u00ed\u017eemi dvacet dlouh\u00fdch let, odsouzen za nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed zlo\u010din.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Na schodech jsme se pozdravili s&nbsp;jeho maminkou, kter\u00e1 \u017eije o patro n\u00ed\u017e, a vydr\u00e1pali jsme se do nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00edho patra.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Jon\u00e1k p\u016fsobil vesele a srde\u010dn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vypr\u00e1v\u011bl dlouh\u00e9 t\u0159i hodiny, proto je tento rozhovor jen prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bylo velice zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 naslouchat, proto\u017ee na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b se \u010dlov\u011bk skute\u010dn\u011b dob\u0159e bav\u00ed, a na t\u00e9 druh\u00e9 mu b\u011bh\u00e1 mr\u00e1z po z\u00e1dech.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>D\u0159\u00edv, ne\u017e se za\u010dtete do vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed Ivana Jon\u00e1ka, mus\u00edm p\u0159edstavit vedle Veroniky, kter\u00e1 u rozhovoru celou dobu byla a \u010dasto otce dopl\u0148ovala, je\u0161t\u011b jednoho \u010dlov\u011bka. A p\u0159edstav\u00edm ho r\u00e1da.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Byl tam s&nbsp;n\u00e1mi je\u0161t\u011b dlouholet\u00fd kamar\u00e1d pana Jon\u00e1ka, pan Tom\u00e1\u0161. (mimo Tom\u00e1\u0161e, kter\u00fd pro v\u00e1s po\u0159\u00eddil sn\u00edmky)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Asi nep\u0159eh\u00e1n\u00edm a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee se mnou pan Jon\u00e1k bude souhlasit, kdy\u017e \u0159eknu, \u017ee pan Tom\u00e1\u0161 funguje v&nbsp;sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u0159e jako kombinace, mana\u017eera, dobr\u00e9ho p\u0159\u00edtele, IT servismana a tak\u00e9 str\u00e1\u017en\u00e9ho and\u011bla.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tom\u00e1\u0161ovy dopl\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed vsuvky jsem pro orientaci vybarvila fialov\u011b.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Hned prvn\u00ed historka stoj\u00ed zato a j\u00e1 se rozhodla, \u017ee v\u016fbec za\u010dnu t\u00edm veselej\u0161\u00edm, pak p\u0159ejdeme voln\u011b k&nbsp;tomu m\u00e9n\u011b vesel\u00e9mu a nakonec zase skon\u010d\u00edme vesele.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I kdy\u017e \u2013 ledva jsme dosedli, za\u010dalo \u0161\u00edlen\u011b pr\u0161et a do seda\u010dky m\u011b zavrtala r\u00e1na jako z&nbsp;d\u011bla. Muselo uhodit do domu p\u0159\u00edmo naproti, proto\u017ee jsem m\u00e1lem p\u0159i\u0161la o bub\u00ednek a o nervy. (pokl\u00e1dejte pe\u010dliv\u011b p\u0159ipraven\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky, kdy\u017e m\u00e1te fobii z&nbsp;bou\u0159ky).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed tam uhodilo jen jednou.<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ivane, zkou\u0161\u00edm si p\u0159edstavit, jak\u00e9 by to pro m\u011b bylo, kdybych byla pomalu dvacet let izolovan\u00e1 od spole\u010dnosti, kdyby n\u011bkde b\u011b\u017eel kup\u0159edu \u017eivot, spole\u010dnost a t\u0159eba technika se posunuly o dvacet a j\u00e1 najednou s&nbsp;takov\u00fdm deficitem m\u011bla za\u010d\u00edt fungovat. Neum\u00edm si to p\u0159edstavit, ale jist\u011b to mus\u00ed b\u00fdt pro v\u00e1s hodn\u011b n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>N\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9? Kouk\u00e1m jako bl\u00e1zen. Tady m\u00e1m dva telefony, ale ten jeden m\u00e1 tu vadu, \u017ee se ho nemohu dot\u00fdkat, i kdy\u017e je dotekov\u00fd, proto\u017ee jakmile to ud\u011bl\u00e1m, on ud\u011bl\u00e1 n\u011bco jin\u00e9ho. A kdyby jednou. Ud\u011bl\u00e1 to mnohokr\u00e1t. \u010c\u00edm v\u00edc se ho pak dot\u00fdk\u00e1m, t\u00edm v\u00edc se oddaluji od toho, co jsem po n\u011bm cht\u011bl. Neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u00fd.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13854ZmR.jpg\" alt=\"13854ZmR.jpg\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nic si z&nbsp;toho ned\u011blejte, to jsou ty dotekov\u00e9 telefony. J\u00e1 nesed\u011bla osmn\u00e1ct let a taky m\u00e1m s&nbsp;tou v\u011bc\u00ed probl\u00e9m. Hovory si vyp\u00edn\u00e1m uchem, nev\u00edm, jak to dr\u017eet, prost\u011b to nechci. M\u00e1m tla\u010d\u00edtkov\u00fd.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>No jo, ale j\u00e1 dostal v\u010dera tady od Tom\u00e1\u0161e taky tohle. Tablet je to. Bezva v\u011bc, nap\u0159\u00edklad se mohu d\u00edvat na Facebook, kter\u00fd je\u0161t\u011b \u00fapln\u011b nech\u00e1pu, ale u\u017e zvl\u00e1dnu komunikaci s&nbsp;p\u0159\u00e1teli. Hrozn\u011b m\u011b mimochodem p\u0159ekvapilo, \u017ee b\u011bhem dvou hodin, co tady Tom\u00e1\u0161 zalo\u017eil na tom FB ten profil, jsem tam m\u011bl, nekec\u00e1m 17&nbsp;000 p\u0159\u00e1tel!! (pozn.\u017e\u00e1dost\u00ed o p\u0159\u00e1telstv\u00ed). To je neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u00fd a m\u011b to dojalo.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ale ono to um\u00ed i v\u00edc v\u011bc\u00ed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Myslel jsem v\u010dera v&nbsp;noci, \u017ee jednu z&nbsp;t\u011bch zaj\u00edmav\u00fdch funkc\u00ed vyzkou\u0161\u00edm. To v\u00edte, pochopte, osmn\u00e1ct let nen\u00ed t\u00fdden a na\u0161el jsem si velice zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 str\u00e1nky, jejich \u0159ekn\u011bme z\u00e1kladn\u00ed obsah mi byl cel\u00e9 ty roky odep\u0159en.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>M\u011bl jsem ohromnou radost, ale vz\u00e1p\u011bt\u00ed jsem o ni p\u0159i\u0161el.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ta v\u011bc p\u0159estala ty hezk\u00e9 sle\u010dny a mnoho t\u00e9mat ukazovat. A tak jsem do toho po\u0159\u00e1d \u0165ukal a \u0165ukal a ono po\u0159\u00e1d nic a nic a j\u00e1 byl na\u0161tvanej, \u017ee to nefunguje, nebo \u017ee vypadl sign\u00e1l\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>No, a m\u011b budila kolem jedn\u00e9 man\u017eelka, \u017ee bych se m\u011bl j\u00edt pod\u00edvat na po\u010d\u00edta\u010d. Tak jsem to celkem neochotn\u011b ud\u011blal a m\u00e1lem jsem omdlel, dopl\u0148uje Ivana Tom\u00e1\u0161, kter\u00fd v&nbsp;pr\u016fb\u011bhu rozhovoru Ivana doplnil je\u0161t\u011b mnohokr\u00e1t.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Neuv\u011b\u0159\u00edte, co jsem vid\u011bl.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ivan v\u0161echny ty str\u00e1nky, prost\u011b v\u0161echno, co tam bylo, co se tam nab\u00edzelo v\u0161echny roztodivn\u00e9 nab\u00eddky, nasd\u00edlel se v\u0161emi t\u011bmi 17 ti tis\u00edci lidmi!!!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Tak\u017ee: Ivan Jon\u00e1k doporu\u010duje: Sex v&nbsp;p\u011bti, sex v&nbsp;deseti, sex s&nbsp;kon\u011bm, sex ve v\u00fdtahu, ve van\u011b, na \u0161tafl\u00edch, s&nbsp;jedn\u00edm vibr\u00e1torem, p\u011bti vibr\u00e1tory\u2026pod vodou\u2026 a to ne jednou! Jak do toho bu\u0161il, tak to tam s\u00e1zel tak, \u017ee se to na\u010dasovalo a vkl\u00e1dalo a vkl\u00e1dalo\u2026 i str\u00e1nky, kter\u00e9 Ivan ani neotev\u0159el. Reakce byly okam\u017eit\u00e9 a m\u016fj \u0161ok p\u0159evelk\u00fd.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Nap\u0159ed jsem mu zavolal a\u0165 u\u017e proboha p\u0159estane klikat a pak jsem to do t\u0159\u00ed do r\u00e1na mazal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tak to je bomba!! A jak\u00e9ho kon\u011b jste si, Ivane vybral? Sv\u011btloh\u0159\u00edv\u00e1ka, nebo bruneta?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>J\u00e1 ani nev\u00edm&nbsp;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/js-dynamic\/tiny_mce\/plugins\/emotions\/img\/smiley-rofl.gif\" alt=\"ROFL\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Je\u0161t\u011b prost\u011b mus\u00edm hodn\u011b pochopit. Jsem ale velmi r\u00e1d a nesm\u00edrn\u011b si cen\u00edm toho, \u017ee se mi lid\u00e9 sna\u017e\u00ed pomoct, \u017ee je jich tolik, mo\u017en\u00e1 to zn\u00ed naivn\u011b, ale j\u00e1 jsem z&nbsp;toho dojat\u00fd.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To ch\u00e1pu a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 a \u017ee podporu budete v&nbsp;p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch dnech a m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch pot\u0159ebovat. A takov\u00fdch historek, t\u011bch je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ijde<\/strong>\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>No, to je pravda. Tady mi jedna p\u0159\u00edtelkyn\u011b p\u0159ivezla auto a j\u00e1 byl tak \u0161\u0165astn\u00fd, \u017ee jsem se jel projet. Obratem jsem se ztratil na Sm\u00edchov\u011b. No a pak jsem cht\u011bl natankovat, abych j\u00ed auto vr\u00e1til v&nbsp;pohod\u011b, jen\u017ee jsem p\u0159ijel k&nbsp;pump\u011b a byl jsem v&nbsp;h\u00e1ji. Ty benz\u00edny, co zn\u00e1m tam nebyly, zato tam bylo asi \u0161est hadic a j\u00e1 nev\u011bd\u011bl, co te\u010f.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Oslovil jsem proto n\u011bjak\u00e9ho mu\u017ee vedle, kter\u00e9ho jsem se zeptal co je to vlastn\u011b za auto, a co se tam tankuje. On se na m\u011b d\u00edval, jako bych byl mimozem\u0161\u0165an. Norm\u00e1ln\u011b vyvalil o\u010di a nic ne\u0159ekl. Pak se ale probral, a pov\u00edd\u00e1, jestli nejsem n\u00e1hodou Jon\u00e1k. \u0158ekl jsem, \u017ee n\u00e1hodou ano a ono mu to v\u0161echno asi do\u0161lo.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Byl velmi vst\u0159\u00edcn\u00fd, pomohl mi, natankoval a je\u0161t\u011b se mnou pov\u00eddal\u2026bylo to mil\u00e9.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To pobav\u00ed a pot\u011b\u0161\u00ed z\u00e1rove\u0148. Je fajn, \u017ee nejste s\u00e1m, ch\u00e1pu ty drobnosti, kter\u00e9 pro v\u00e1s jsou te\u010f d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, ale to v\u0161echno v&nbsp;podstat\u011b vrac\u00ed p\u0159edn\u011b va\u0161i minulost&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ano, a minulost na m\u011b kouk\u00e1 po\u0159\u00e1d a je vlastn\u011b v\u0161ude. Ty telefony po\u0159\u00e1d zvon\u00ed, st\u00e1le m\u011b n\u011bkdo n\u011bkam zve, volaj\u00ed m\u00e9dia a j\u00e1 zat\u00edm nejsem schopen n\u011bco organizovat. Vlastn\u011b sebou tak p\u0159ehazuju, z&nbsp;jednoho m\u00edsta na druh\u00e9, z&nbsp;jedn\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti do druh\u00e9\u2026ve\u010d\u00edrky, kde ani nev\u00edm, jak se m\u00e1m kolikr\u00e1t chovat, kde zji\u0161\u0165uji, \u017ee nem\u00e1m kolikr\u00e1t padnouc\u00ed oblek, nejsem na to p\u0159ipraven\u00fd. Na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b to pot\u011b\u0161\u00ed a hodn\u011b moc, ale na t\u00e9 druh\u00e9 jsem v&nbsp;rozpac\u00edch. Jsem bez prost\u0159edk\u016f, nemohu se revan\u0161ovat tak, jak jsem b\u00fdval zvykl\u00fd.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V\u00edm. Tu dobu i va\u0161e p\u016fsoben\u00ed si pamatuji, je to asi velk\u00fd skok.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Je velk\u00fd. Kdybych v\u00e1m m\u011bl vypr\u00e1v\u011bt, co v\u0161echno jsem pro\u017eil, jak jsem \u017eil, kde jsem se vyskytoval, s&nbsp;jak\u00fdmi lidmi jsem se setk\u00e1val, jac\u00ed lid\u00e9 se cht\u011bli st\u00fdkat se mnou, kdo v\u0161echno se kolem m\u011b to\u010dil, a jak jsem se m\u011bl, byli bychom tady hodn\u011b dlouho\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si na Discoland a vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si i na v\u00e1s. Byla to doba, ve kter\u00e9 jste byl kr\u00e1lem, bossem, byl jste bohat\u00fd mu\u017e s&nbsp;pomalu neomezenou moc\u00ed, kontakty, ekonomicky p\u0159edimenzovan\u00fd\u2026nep\u0159ipad\u00e1 v\u00e1m, \u017ee to je ale i d\u016fvod, \u017ee n\u011bkdo moc pot\u0159eboval, abyste zmizel?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13861NDc.jpg\" alt=\"13861NDc.jpg\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ano jist\u011b, to v\u00edm. Sice m\u011b nenapadlo, \u017ee by to mohlo doj\u00edt a\u017e tak daleko, ale u\u017e tehdy jsem v\u011bd\u011bl o lidech, kter\u00fdm p\u0159ek\u00e1\u017e\u00edm, kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed strach z&nbsp;toho, co mohu, kam dos\u00e1hnu a podobn\u011b. Pos\u00edlali mi pomalu t\u00fddn\u011b do Discolandu \u0161\u0165\u00e1ru, aby vyhnali hosty a podobn\u011b. To jsem v\u011bd\u011bl. Tak\u00e9 jsem ale v\u011bd\u011bl o t\u011bch \u0161\u0165\u00e1r\u00e1ch dop\u0159edu, proto\u017ee to je o t\u011bch lidech, kter\u00e9 jsem znal. Tak\u017ee mi zavolali dop\u0159edu, \u017ee tam n\u011bkdo jede\u2026je to za\u010darovan\u00fd kruh.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ve fin\u00e1le jste si vlastn\u011b kolem sebe mo\u017en\u00e1 vytvo\u0159il dvoj\u00ed spole\u010dnost. Tu, kter\u00e1 v\u00e1m podl\u00e9hala a tu, kter\u00e1 v\u00e1s nen\u00e1vid\u011bla. Je dost mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee se prol\u00ednaly\u2026(?)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ano, na seznamu t\u011bch, kdo maj\u00ed b\u00fdt odstran\u011bni, jsem byl za chv\u00edli jak j\u00e1, tak i moje \u017eena. U m\u011b se jim to nepovedlo, p\u0159esto\u017ee to zkusili n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vy v\u00edte, p\u0159esn\u011b, kdo to byl?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>V\u00edm to, proto\u017ee zase existovali lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed mi to \u0159ekli. I tohle se ke mn\u011b dostalo. A tak\u00e9 jsem to policii \u0159ekl. Dokonce j\u00ed to \u0159ekli i n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed ti, kdo do toho byli zapleteni. V\u017edy\u0165 to pak vedlo k&nbsp;tomu, \u017ee jsem byl opakovan\u011b zpro\u0161t\u011bn viny\u2026ale byl jsem tak nepohodln\u00fd, \u017ee jsem byl nakonec odsouzen na z\u00e1klad\u011b stejn\u00fdch v\u00fdpov\u011bd\u00ed, na z\u00e1klad\u011b kter\u00fdch jsem p\u0159ed t\u00edm shled\u00e1n vinn\u00fdm nebyl.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To je neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b zamotan\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>To je tak zamotan\u00e9, \u017ee to nech\u00e1pe nikdo, ale jsou lid\u00e9 a sed\u00ed hodn\u011b vysoko i dnes, kte\u0159\u00ed to moc dob\u0159e v\u011bd\u00ed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ivanovi dokonce v\u010dera p\u0159i\u0161la SMS od \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd zast\u00e1v\u00e1 vysokou funkci v&nbsp;sektoru bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch slo\u017eek, kter\u00fd mu doslova napsal, \u017ee ho mrz\u00ed, co se stalo, \u017ee v\u00ed, jak to bylo, ale \u017ee m\u00e1 ur\u010dit\u00e9 z\u00e1vazky z&nbsp;titulu sv\u00e9 funkce, tak\u017ee mu jen takto soukrom\u011b m\u00e1 pot\u0159ebu vyj\u00e1d\u0159it podporu.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>To m\u011b skute\u010dn\u011b pot\u011b\u0161ilo a p\u0159ekvapilo z\u00e1rove\u0148. Ale oni to v\u011bd\u011bli i mnoz\u00ed z&nbsp;veden\u00ed v\u011bznice a bohu\u017eel tak\u00e9 bacha\u0159i.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pro\u010d bohu\u017eel?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Hned, jak jsem nastoupil, \u0159ekli mi, my ti uk\u00e1\u017eeme diskoland a zav\u0159eli m\u011b do d\u00edry.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Co to je d\u00edra?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Je to izolace, takov\u00e1 speci\u00e1ln\u00ed cela, kde nen\u00ed okno a postel je sklopena a uzam\u010dena ke zdi. Nem\u016f\u017eete si lehnout, nem\u016f\u017eete si \u010d\u00edst, nem\u016f\u017eete sp\u00e1t, ps\u00e1t nic.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>A jak dlouho jste v&nbsp;t\u00e9 d\u00ed\u0159e byl?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Dvacet dn\u016f. Ale pak v\u00e1s mus\u00ed pustit, na n\u011bkolik hodin, abyste se vyspala, proto\u017ee na to je&nbsp; norma. A pak? Dal\u0161\u00edch dvacet.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To by m\u011b ranila mrtvice.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Jsem po mrtvici.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Co jste tam vlastn\u011b, kdy\u017e jste nebyl v&nbsp;d\u00ed\u0159e, d\u011blal?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Psal jsem. Je prima dost\u00e1vat dopisy, je prima je ps\u00e1t. Zabere to \u010das. Tak\u00e9 jsem snil. To je bezvadn\u00e9, proto\u017ee lidsk\u00fd mozek vytvo\u0159\u00ed v&nbsp;takov\u00fdch podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch a odk\u00e1z\u00e1n jen s\u00e1m na sebe, neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 v\u011bci, ze kter\u00fdch pak jeden \u017eije. Tak\u00e9 jsem maloval a vzpom\u00ednal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na svoje \u017eeny? V\u00edm, \u017ee jich bylo hodn\u011b\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>To tak\u00e9, to hodn\u011b a intenzivn\u011b.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na Jah\u016fdku? Na tu si pamatuji, i kdy\u017e jsem ji nevid\u011bla. (jmenoval se po n\u00ed koktejl v&nbsp;Discolandu). Je to pan\u00ed,&nbsp; se kterou m\u00e1te syna, pokud v\u00edm.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ano, Jah\u016fdku bych si i vzal. Moc r\u00e1d bych ji vid\u011bl, snad se to povede. A taky na \u201eplam\u00ednka\u201c. J\u00e1 j\u00ed tak \u0159\u00edkal, proto\u017ee m\u011bla vlasy, kter\u00e9 na slun\u00ed\u010dku z\u00e1\u0159ily jako ohe\u0148. Byla velice kr\u00e1sn\u00e1, vypadala jako Katrin Hepburn. Tu jsem si taky namaloval<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Takhle:<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13859MjY.jpg\" alt=\"13859MjY.jpg\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>A tohle je zase Jah\u016fdka \u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13856M2Q.jpg\" alt=\"13856M2Q.jpg\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ivan n\u00e1m uk\u00e1zal cel\u00fd \u0161tos fotografi\u00ed, kter\u00e9 jsou unik\u00e1tn\u00ed t\u00edm, \u017ee v\u016fbec existuj\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vid\u011bli jsme v\u00fdznamn\u00e9 politiky, um\u011blce a \u0161ar\u017ee t\u00e9 doby. Mnoho fotek m\u00e1 s&nbsp;v\u011bnov\u00e1n\u00edm Ivanovi, p\u0159\u00edteli Ivanovi, Ivanu Jon\u00e1kovi na pam\u00e1tku a podobn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jm\u00e9na na nich nejsou nezn\u00e1m\u00e1 ani dnes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u010clov\u011bk si nejen ud\u011bl\u00e1 obr\u00e1zek, k\u00fdm byl Ivan Jon\u00e1k, kdo v\u0161echno se s&nbsp;n\u00edm usilovn\u011b cht\u011bl alespo\u0148 vyfotit, ud\u011blat z&nbsp;n\u011bho kamar\u00e1da, b\u00fdt zahl\u00e9dnut v&nbsp;jeho bl\u00edzkosti, po\u017e\u00edvat jeho n\u00e1klonnosti\u2026. ale tak\u00e9 o tom, jak je snadn\u00e9 se pak st\u00e1t paradoxn\u011b t\u00edm, kdo je potencion\u00e1ln\u011b &nbsp;\u201emrtv\u00fd mu\u017e\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13858OTB.jpg\" alt=\"13858OTB.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ivane, kdy\u017e to tak poslouch\u00e1m, c\u00edt\u00edte pot\u0159ebu se s&nbsp;n\u011bk\u00fdm vyrovnat? Doj\u00edt satisfakce? Jak\u00e9 m\u00e1te pl\u00e1ny te\u010f?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ano, chci se vyrovnat. P\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm bych r\u00e1d vynahradil sv\u00fdm dcer\u00e1m t\u011bch osmn\u00e1ct let. Chci jim oplatit v\u011brnost, podporu, a \u017ee za mnou z\u016fstaly st\u00e1t. \u017de m\u011b neopustily. To je prioritn\u00ed satisfakce, po kter\u00e9 tou\u017e\u00edm.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To je super. Jak Ver\u010da, tak Sylva jsou b\u00e1je\u010dn\u00e9. D\u00edky Sylv\u011b jsme se mohli vlastn\u011b znovu spojit. \u0160koda, \u017ee tu zrovna nen\u00ed, abych j\u00ed pod\u011bkovala. Ale j\u00e1 m\u011bla sp\u00ed\u0161e na mysli, n\u011bjak\u00e9 pl\u00e1ny bezprost\u0159edn\u011b te\u010f, po t\u00e9 spole\u010densk\u00e9 rovin\u011b.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Hlavn\u00ed, co te\u010f mus\u00edme s&nbsp;Ivanem \u0159e\u0161it, je starost o jeho zdrav\u00ed. Ot\u00e9kaj\u00ed mu nohy, nen\u00ed v&nbsp;po\u0159\u00e1dku, pot\u0159ebuje spoustu vy\u0161et\u0159en\u00ed, odb\u011bry a hodn\u011b dal\u0161\u00edch odborn\u00fdch kontrol. S&nbsp;t\u00edm souvis\u00ed vy\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed zdravotn\u00edho poji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed, \u00fa\u0159ady, \u00fa\u0159ad pr\u00e1ce, n\u011bjak\u00fd p\u0159\u00edjem, d\u016fchod, \u0159idi\u010dsk\u00fd pr\u016fkaz a tak\u00e9 pohled\u00e1vky, kter\u00e9 tu st\u00e1le jsou. N\u011bco Ivan umo\u0159il vlastn\u011b u\u017e ve v\u00fdkonu trestu, ale je hodn\u011b v\u011bc\u00ed, kde se jedn\u00e1n\u00ed teprve budou muset obnovit, kde se mus\u00ed za\u010d\u00edt \u0159e\u0161it. To jsou vlastn\u011b nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed pl\u00e1ny do p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch dn\u016f.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Chcete se t\u0159eba v&nbsp;budoucnu o\u017eenit? \u017d\u00edt rodinn\u00fd \u017eivot? Je n\u011bkdo, kdo by mohl b\u00fdt po va\u0161em boku te\u010f?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>V\u00edte, m\u00e1m kolem sebe \u017eeny, kter\u00e9 m\u00e1m r\u00e1d, kter\u00fdm d\u016fv\u011b\u0159uji, a kter\u00e9 maj\u00ed r\u00e1dy m\u011b. Velice si toho v\u00e1\u017e\u00edm a pot\u0159ebuji je. Ale j\u00e1 mus\u00edm nap\u0159ed d\u00e1t do po\u0159\u00e1dku, d\u00e1t \u0159\u00e1d a rovinu vlastn\u00edmu \u017eivotu. A to chci ud\u011blat d\u0159\u00edv, ne\u017e ho spoj\u00edm se \u017eivotem n\u011bkoho druh\u00e9ho. Aby to bylo f\u00e9rov\u00e9.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ivan Jon\u00e1k n\u00e1m nechal nafotit i spoustu dal\u0161\u00edch zaj\u00edmav\u00fdch v\u011bc\u00ed. Vid\u011bli jsme knihy s&nbsp;v\u011bnov\u00e1n\u00edm od um\u011blc\u016f, kter\u00e9 zn\u00e1te moc dob\u0159e. Vid\u011bli jsme ale hodn\u011b jin\u00fdch materi\u00e1l\u016f, kter\u00e9 n\u00e1m Ivan Jon\u00e1k dovolil nafotit a uk\u00e1zat \u010dten\u00e1\u0159\u016fm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13857MTB.jpg\" alt=\"13857MTB.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je\u0161t\u011b hodn\u011b vypr\u00e1v\u011bl.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>O sv\u00e9 \u017een\u011b, jejich vztahu i pozad\u00ed ud\u00e1lost\u00ed kolem jeho uv\u011bzn\u011bn\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pan Jon\u00e1k m\u00e1 te\u010f dvoj\u00ed energii.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;jedn\u00e9 osob\u011b je to mu\u017e, jeho\u017e minulost je mo\u017en\u00e1 velkou, \u010dernou te\u010dkou na spole\u010dnosti devades\u00e1t\u00fdch let. Na stavu justice, politick\u00e9 sc\u00e9ny, vymahatelnosti pr\u00e1va a je uk\u00e1zkov\u00fdm p\u0159\u00edkladem, v&nbsp;jak\u00e9m extr\u00e9mu se tehdy \u010desk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost nach\u00e1zela. A je to z&nbsp;jeho vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed patrn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Na stran\u011b druh\u00e9 stoj\u00ed sou\u010dasn\u00fd Ivan Jon\u00e1k, kter\u00fd jakkoli by mohl, nep\u016fsob\u00ed dojmem zatrpkl\u00e9ho, ubl\u00ed\u017een\u00e9ho mu\u017ee, jeho\u017e p\u0159ipravila spole\u010dnost o dvacet \u017eivota.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je to fatalista, kter\u00fd se sm\u00ed\u0159il s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee jeho osudem bylo v\u0161echno, co se stalo. \u017de to tak m\u011blo b\u00fdt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u010clov\u011bk, kter\u00fd se doslova t\u011b\u0161\u00ed ze \u017eivota. Z&nbsp;ka\u017ed\u00e9 minuty. Ani minutu dop\u0159edu nen\u00ed schopen pl\u00e1novat. Zat\u00edm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/13855OTh.jpg\" alt=\"13855OTh.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vzhledem k&nbsp;tomu, jak\u00fdm \u00fasm\u011bvn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem prob\u00edhaly na\u0161e telefon\u00e1ty, ne\u017e jsme jeli na tento rozhovor, \u0161li jsme do kancel\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fdch pot\u0159eb a koupili a p\u0159ivezli jsme mu di\u00e1\u0159.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jako takov\u00fd prvn\u00ed krok.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A prvn\u00ed krok ud\u011blal tak\u00e9 tento rozhovor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nechceme ukrajovat z&nbsp;Ivanova vypr\u00e1v\u011bn\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tak\u017ee: TO BE CONTINUED<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Michaela Kudl\u00e1\u010dkov\u00e1<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>[sexy_author_bio]<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Fotografie: Tom\u00e1\u0161 \u017debr\u00e1k<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Materi\u00e1ly: Soukrom\u00fd arch\u00edv Ivana Jon\u00e1ka<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 315 Jsem te\u010f r\u00e1da, \u017ee ke sl\u00edben\u00e9mu rozhovoru s&nbsp;panem Ivanem Jon\u00e1kem, kter\u00fd jsem v\u00e1m sl\u00edbila uskute\u010dnit bezprost\u0159edn\u011b, co odlo\u017e\u00ed v\u011bze\u0148sk\u00e9 \u0161aty, nakonec v&nbsp;den jeho propu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed nedo\u0161lo. Zkraje m\u011b to mrzelo a pan Jon\u00e1k, tak\u00e9 zm\u00ednil, \u017ee n\u00e1s vyhl\u00ed\u017eel, ale mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v&nbsp;ten den, bychom nad rozhovorem nebyli schopni str\u00e1vit t\u0159i hodiny. A byla by [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":3022,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3021","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-spolecnost"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.3 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jsem te\u010f r\u00e1da, \u017ee ke sl\u00edben\u00e9mu rozhovoru s panem Ivanem Jon\u00e1kem, kter\u00fd jsem v\u00e1m sl\u00edbila uskute\u010dnit bezprost\u0159edn\u011b, co odlo\u017e\u00ed v\u011bze\u0148sk\u00e9 \u0161aty, nakonec v den jeho propu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed nedo\u0161lo. 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