{"id":2811,"date":"2014-11-13T09:37:34","date_gmt":"2014-11-13T08:37:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/pokus_sablona\/?p=2811"},"modified":"2018-07-27T09:41:16","modified_gmt":"2018-07-27T07:41:16","slug":"causa-kramny-monika-a-klarka-byly-v-dobe-nalezu-vice-nez-10-hodin-mrtve","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/spolecnost\/causa-kramny-monika-a-klarka-byly-v-dobe-nalezu-vice-nez-10-hodin-mrtve.html","title":{"rendered":"Causa Kramn\u00fd: Monika a Kl\u00e1rka byly v dob\u011b n\u00e1lezu v\u00edce, ne\u017e 10 hodin mrtv\u00e9!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 259<\/p><div class=\"article_text\">\n<p><strong>Je pravdou, \u017ee se na Popelk\u00e1ch posledn\u00ed dobou o p\u0159\u00edpadu, kter\u00fd n\u00e1s v\u0161echny tolik zaujal, nepsalo. Nebylo to proto, \u017ee by redakci, konkr\u00e9tn\u011b m\u011b, p\u0159estala dosud z\u00e1hadn\u00e1 smrt matky a mal\u00e9ho d\u011bv\u010d\u00e1tka z&nbsp;lo\u0148sk\u00e9ho \u010dervence zaj\u00edmat. Pr\u00e1v\u011b naopak. Nejsem ale p\u0159\u00edtelem pr\u00e1zdn\u00fdch \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016f. Snad v\u00e1m to vynahrad\u00edm nov\u00fdmi informacemi nyn\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article_text\">\n<p>Podtr\u017eeno se\u010dteno, kdy\u017e se ohl\u00e9dneme zp\u011bt do lo\u0148sk\u00e9ho l\u00e9ta, m\u011bl pan Kramn\u00fd velk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed p\u0159\u00edznivc\u016f a p\u0159\u00edznivky\u0148, kte\u0159\u00ed ve v\u00ed\u0159e v&nbsp;nevinu tohoto mu\u017ee, byli ochotni se b\u00edt jako lvi a mnohdy ne \u00fapln\u011b \u010dist\u00fdmi prost\u0159edky.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lze to snadno pochopit a nelze se na mnoh\u00e9 ani tolik zlobit.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u010clov\u011bk jen t\u011b\u017eko p\u0159ipou\u0161t\u00ed n\u011bco tak stra\u0161n\u00e9ho, jako je promy\u0161len\u00e1 vra\u017eda d\u00edt\u011bte. P\u0159\u00edpad se natolik zamotal, \u017ee bylo jen st\u011b\u017e\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, sledovat linku, kter\u00e1 by nebyla zav\u00e1d\u011bj\u00edc\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>R\u00e1da bych uvedla, \u017ee tento magaz\u00edn byl prvn\u00edm m\u00e9diem, kter\u00fd nep\u0159\u00edmo na sv\u00fdch str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch ozna\u010dil Petra Kramn\u00e9ho za vraha sv\u00e9 rodiny. Stalo se tak zhruba ji\u017e t\u00fdden po ud\u00e1losti, kdy jsem osobn\u011b uvedla, \u017ee dle m\u00fdch, tou dobou jedin\u00fdch dostupn\u00fdch prost\u0159edk\u016f, Kramn\u00fd svou \u017eenu ve skute\u010dnosti nen\u00e1vid\u011bl.<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/prave-ted\/tarot-se-s-panem-kramnym-rozchazi.html?page=2#posts\"> ZDE.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/15767NGF.jpg\" alt=\"15767NGF.jpg\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>V&nbsp;tuto chv\u00edli, o rok pozd\u011bji, je tvrzen\u00ed v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b ji\u017e obvin\u011bn\u00e9ho Petra Kramn\u00e9ho, kter\u00fd i p\u0159es nezvratn\u00e1 zji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed a dobrozd\u00e1n\u00ed znalc\u016f trv\u00e1 na otrav\u011b, sm\u011b\u0161n\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Elektrick\u00fdm proudem nelze \u010dlov\u011bka otr\u00e1vit, ani p\u0159i nejlep\u0161\u00ed v\u016fli, nehled\u011b na skute\u010dnosti d\u00e1le n\u00ed\u017ee uveden\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je pravdou, \u017ee mnoh\u00e9 z&nbsp;rozumn\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edznivc\u016f pan Kramn\u00fd v&nbsp;pr\u016fb\u011bhu roku ztratil.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A to je tak\u00e9 d\u016fvod, pro\u010d jsou dnes n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed lid\u00e9 z&nbsp;jeho bl\u00edzk\u00e9ho okol\u00ed, nebo okol\u00ed t\u011bch, kte\u0159\u00ed se s&nbsp;n\u00edm bezprost\u0159edn\u011b st\u00fdkali, ochotn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed dnes mluvit, podat informace a maj\u00ed tuto pot\u0159ebu sami, ani\u017e by je redaktor musel nah\u00e1n\u011bt a p\u0159emlouvat.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vysv\u011btluji si tento fakt t\u00edm, \u017ee jde tak\u00e9 o sv\u011bdom\u00ed slu\u0161n\u00fdch lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed s&nbsp;odstupem \u010dasu c\u00edt\u00ed, \u017ee je t\u0159eba do ur\u010dit\u00e9 m\u00edry sv\u016fj omyl napravit. Mo\u017en\u00e1, zvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b v&nbsp;jednom p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, pak o\u010distit sebe sama.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Naprosto to ch\u00e1pu, velice t\u011bmto lidem za jejich sv\u011bdectv\u00ed a slova d\u011bkuji a jak jsem sl\u00edbila, nebudu a nechci sv\u00e9 zdroje zve\u0159ej\u0148ovat.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se, \u017ee d\u00edky ochotn\u011b mnoh\u00fdch promluvit, m\u00e1m pro v\u00e1s dnes velice z\u00e1sadn\u00ed informace, zar\u00e1\u017eej\u00edc\u00ed skute\u010dnosti a detaily, kter\u00e9 odkr\u00fdvaj\u00ed skute\u010dnou podstatu, povahu a osobnostn\u00ed rysy pana Kramn\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ponejprve se v\u00e1m pokus\u00edm sd\u011blit, co jsem se dozv\u011bd\u011bla od \u010dty\u0159 na sob\u011b nez\u00e1visl\u00fdch zdroj\u016f.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Po t\u00e9 se pokus\u00edm informace pro v\u00e1s tak\u00e9 opat\u0159it puncem v\u011brohodnosti t\u00edm, \u017ee se na n\u011bkter\u00e9 zept\u00e1m p\u0159\u00edmo pan\u00ed JUDr. Kl\u00e1ry Long Sl\u00e1mov\u00e9, kter\u00e1 m\u016f\u017ee n\u011bkter\u00e9 z&nbsp;nich, pokud to bude s&nbsp;ohledem na jej\u00ed pozici a stav vy\u0161et\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, potvrdit \u010di vyvr\u00e1tit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Je toho tolik, \u017ee jsem se po \u00favaze rozhodla, sepsat pro v\u00e1s ony skute\u010dnosti v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b v&nbsp;bodech a pak polo\u017eit souhrnn\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky z&nbsp;obsahu slov sv\u011bdk\u016f tak\u00e9 pan\u00ed Kl\u00e1\u0159e.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b prvn\u00ed, co v\u00e1s mo\u017en\u00e1 p\u0159i \u010detn\u00ed napadne, budou dv\u011b v\u011bci.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd je naru\u0161en\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk natolik up\u0159ednost\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed vlastn\u00ed ekonomick\u00e9 z\u00e1jmy, vlastn\u00ed osobu a sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed apetit, \u017ee mu t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 nezb\u00fdv\u00e1 prostor na cokoli jin\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jeho mor\u00e1ln\u00ed kredit je, pokud se skute\u010dnosti uk\u00e1\u017e\u00ed b\u00fdt pravdiv\u00e9, nikoli nulov\u00fd, ale m\u00ednusov\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Up\u0159\u00edmn\u011b jsem se s&nbsp;takov\u00fdm osobnostn\u00edm profilem je\u0161t\u011b nesetkala.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Od sv\u00e9ho propu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed do \u010cR m\u011bl pan Kramn\u00fd bezprost\u0159edn\u011b dohromady patrn\u011b \u010dty\u0159i milenky, kdy n\u011bkter\u00e9 se kryj\u00ed, ani\u017e by o sob\u011b v\u011bd\u011bly.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Minim\u00e1ln\u011b po dvou z&nbsp;nich vy\u017eaduje Kramn\u00fd sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed praktiky zalo\u017een\u00e9 na poni\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed, nestandartn\u00edch situac\u00edch, sadomasochismu a prakticky o ni\u010dem jin\u00e9m, vyjma kyd\u00e1n\u00ed \u0161p\u00edny na dle n\u011bho tragicky zesnulou \u017eenu nen\u00ed ochoten komunikovat. (dlu\u017eno \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee dv\u011b z&nbsp;t\u011bchto osob s&nbsp;n\u00edm na z\u00e1klad\u011b t\u011bchto skute\u010dnost\u00ed kontakt p\u0159eru\u0161ily)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pan Kramn\u00fd do sv\u00e9ho zat\u010den\u00ed mimo sv\u00e9 sexu\u00e1ln\u00ed z\u00e1jmy ne\u0159e\u0161il v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b nic jin\u00e9ho, ne\u017e pen\u00edze. Nejen\u017ee rozprodal t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 bezprost\u0159edn\u011b zlato po sv\u00e9 b\u00fdval\u00e9 \u017een\u011b, ale do\u017eadoval se finan\u010dn\u00ed odm\u011bny od v\u0161ech m\u00e9di\u00ed, se kter\u00fdmi komunikoval. Pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b neexistuje fotografie \u010di report\u00e1\u017e, za kterou by nepo\u017eadoval a nedostal finan\u010dn\u00ed odm\u011bnu. Nepokl\u00e1d\u00e1m za seri\u00f3zn\u00ed uv\u00e1d\u011bt n\u00e1zvy m\u00e9di\u00ed, ale pokl\u00e1d\u00e1m tyto informace za podlo\u017een\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pan Kramn\u00fd po\u017eadoval za exkluzivitu dokonce odmaz\u00e1n\u00ed nebo alespo\u0148 sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed sv\u00e9ho dluhu u mobiln\u00edho oper\u00e1tora.<em> (tuto informaci je\u0161t\u011b ov\u011b\u0159uji, nebo\u0165 jsem se nedozv\u011bd\u011bla, zda mu bylo ze strany t\u00e9to spole\u010dnosti nakonec vyhov\u011bno)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>5.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jednoho ze sv\u011bdk\u016f doslova pobou\u0159ilo, \u017ee Petr Kramn\u00fd komunikoval s&nbsp;rodinou zem\u0159el\u00e9 man\u017eelky na \u00farovni finan\u010dn\u00edho vyd\u00edr\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>6.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Panu Kramn\u00e9mu byl na popud okol\u00ed dokonce zalo\u017een <em>(zji\u0161\u0165ujeme, zda byl skute\u010dn\u011b zalo\u017een \u2026)<\/em> \u00fa\u010det. Tuto nab\u00eddku \u00fadajn\u011b p. Kramn\u00fd komentoval t\u00edm, \u017ee pokud by ka\u017ed\u00e1 jeho fanynka poslala 1000 korun, bude ochoten se s&nbsp;ka\u017edou z&nbsp;nich vyspat.<em> (po t\u00e9to informaci m\u011bl zdroj z&nbsp;\u0159ad jeho p\u0159\u00e1tel odstoupit)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pan Kramn\u00fd se zhruba v&nbsp;\u00fanoru leto\u0161n\u00edho roku vyj\u00e1d\u0159il jin\u00e9mu zdroji v&nbsp;tom smyslu, \u017ee pokud by byl v&nbsp;Egypt\u011b souzen za vra\u017edu \u017eeny, a kdyby se pak prok\u00e1zalo, \u017ee mu tato byla nev\u011brn\u00e1, byl by osvobozen. <em>(n\u00ed\u017ee se dot\u00e1\u017ei pan\u00ed Kl\u00e1ry, zdali je mo\u017en\u00e9 toto pokl\u00e1dat za nep\u0159\u00edm\u00e9 dozn\u00e1n\u00ed)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>8.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pan Kramn\u00fd jin\u00e9mu zdroji sd\u011blil, \u017ee m\u00e1 radost z&nbsp;popularity, kter\u00e1 mu je v\u011bnov\u00e1na, a \u017ee na \u017eeb\u0159\u00ed\u010dku popularity v&nbsp;\u010cR dos\u00e1hl moment\u00e1ln\u011b 70%. Konstatuje, \u017ee se patrn\u011b brzy stane nejslavn\u011bj\u0161\u00edm \u010cechem.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>9.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pan Kramn\u00fd jedn\u00e9 osob\u011b doslova \u0159ekl, \u017ee pan\u00ed Monika zem\u0159ela d\u0159\u00edv, ne\u017eli Kl\u00e1rka.<em> (Zde je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee ve\u0159ejn\u011b tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee netu\u0161il, \u017ee jsou jeho bl\u00edzc\u00ed po smrti a zdroj tato nar\u00e1\u017eka rovn\u011b\u017e zarazila)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Perli\u010dky<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pan Kramn\u00fd se kontaktoval se dv\u011bma osobami, kter\u00e9 se zab\u00fdvaj\u00ed v\u00fdkladem karet a ezoterikou.<\/strong> <em>(ne, na m\u011b zapome\u0148te).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>S&nbsp;jednou prioritn\u011b proto, \u017ee se dozv\u011bd\u011bl, \u017ee by mu mohla poskytnout pen\u00edze, proto\u017ee takovou informaci obdr\u017eel, co\u017e ho velice zaujalo, zvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b kdy\u017e mu bylo sd\u011bleno, \u017ee by mohl jako\u017eto pot\u0159ebn\u00fd od t\u00e9to osoby obdr\u017eet dokonce kolem p\u016fl milionu korun. S&nbsp;touto osobu se osobn\u011b setkal.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Druh\u00e9 ezoterick\u00e9 osoby se ptal na p\u016fvod drog v&nbsp;jeho pracovn\u00ed sk\u0159\u00ed\u0148ce v&nbsp;no\u0161ovick\u00e9 tov\u00e1rn\u011b. Tato osoba, mu dle n\u011bho sd\u011blila, \u017ee drogy do sk\u0159\u00ed\u0148ky mu podstr\u010dila osoba, kter\u00e1 je v&nbsp;p\u0159\u00e1telsk\u00e9m vztahu s&nbsp;jednou ze \u010dten\u00e1\u0159ek magaz\u00ednu Popelky.cz. <em>(P\u0159edes\u00edl\u00e1m, \u017ee tato informace nen\u00ed od zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9 ezoteri\u010dky. Pan Kramn\u00fd se touto informac\u00ed chlubil prakticky na ka\u017ed\u00e9m rohu.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Sv\u011b\u0159il se d\u00e1le, \u017ee ho osobn\u011b j\u00e1 jako \u010dlov\u011bk velice zaj\u00edm\u00e1m a nechal si zaslat fotografie a kontakt s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee podnikne kroky. <em>(nekontaktoval m\u011b, patrn\u011b to nestihl a douf\u00e1m, \u017ee ani nestihne).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>To je v\u00edcem\u00e9n\u011b \u00fasm\u011bvn\u00e9 a r\u00e1da bych t\u00edmto po\u017e\u00e1dala p\u0159\u00e1tele \u010dten\u00e1\u0159\u016f magaz\u00ednu, aby laskav\u011b ned\u00e1vali drogy lidem do uzam\u010den\u00fdch sk\u0159\u00edn\u011bk, od kter\u00fdch maj\u00ed kl\u00ed\u010de.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>D\u00e1le jsem z&nbsp;n\u011bkolika zdroj\u016f obdr\u017eela neofici\u00e1ln\u00ed informace, \u017ee Monika a Kl\u00e1rka zem\u0159ely ve skute\u010dnosti v\u00edce, ne\u017e deset hodin p\u0159ed t\u00edm, ne\u017e byla jejich t\u011bla dle v\u00fdpov\u011bdi Kramn\u00e9ho nalezena.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u017de Kl\u00e1rka zem\u0159ela, nebo se bezprost\u0159edn\u011b po smrti nach\u00e1zela v&nbsp;jin\u00e9 poloze a n\u00e1sledn\u011b s&nbsp;n\u00ed bylo &nbsp;manipulov\u00e1no<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/15768MTI.jpg\" alt=\"15768MTI.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To by znamenalo, \u017ee ke smrti obou ob\u011bt\u00ed <\/strong><em>(kde smrt nastala sou\u010dasn\u011b, \u010di velice kr\u00e1tce po sob\u011b)<\/em><strong> do\u0161lo nejpozd\u011bji ji\u017e v odpoledn\u00edch hodin\u00e1ch (ne-li d\u0159\u00edve) p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00e9ho dne!!!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kv\u016fli t\u011bmto skute\u010dnostem a sv\u011bdectv\u00edm, kter\u00e9 v&nbsp;tuhle chv\u00edli nelze pokl\u00e1dat za nic jin\u00e9ho, ne\u017e za sv\u011bdectv\u00ed osob mnohdy z&nbsp;druh\u00e9 ruky a je t\u0159eba k&nbsp;nim takto p\u0159istupovat, jsem se v&nbsp;\u00fater\u00fd setkala s&nbsp;JUDr. Kl\u00e1rou Long Sl\u00e1movou, u kter\u00e9 jsem cht\u011bla pro v\u00e1s n\u011bkter\u00e9 informace zkusit ov\u011b\u0159it, pokud by to bylo z&nbsp;jej\u00ed strany mo\u017en\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Vzhledem k&nbsp;tomu, \u017ee byla pan\u00ed Kl\u00e1ra v&nbsp;\u010dasov\u00e9 t\u00edsni, sl\u00edbila mi, \u017ee se k&nbsp;t\u00e9matu je\u0161t\u011b vr\u00e1t\u00edme a zodpov\u00ed mi i ot\u00e1zky dal\u0161\u00ed. Prozat\u00edm tedy p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00edm prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/15765MGE.jpg\" alt=\"15765MGE.jpg\" \/>Ot\u00e1zky pro pan\u00ed JUDr. Kl\u00e1ru Long \u2013 Sl\u00e1movou<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pan\u00ed doktorko, m\u016f\u017eete potvrdit, \u017ee ke smrti obou ob\u011bt\u00ed do\u0161lo skute\u010dn\u011b o tolik hodin d\u0159\u00edve?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Ano, mohu skute\u010dn\u011b potvrdit, \u017ee byly shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bny dal\u0161\u00ed d\u016fkazy vyvracej\u00edc\u00ed tvrzen\u00ed P. Kramn\u00e9ho \u2013 mimo jin\u00e9 d\u016fkaz o tom, \u017ee smrt Moniky i Kl\u00e1rky nastala nejpozd\u011bji v&nbsp;odpoledn\u00edch hodin\u00e1ch dne 29.7.2013.&nbsp; <\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je pravdou, \u017ee Kl\u00e1rka se po smrti nach\u00e1zela v&nbsp;jin\u00e9 poloze, ne\u017e byla n\u00e1sledn\u011b dle Kramn\u00e9ho \u201enalezena\u201c a \u017ee s&nbsp;mrtv\u00fdm t\u011blem bylo manipulov\u00e1no?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Dle proveden\u00fdch expert\u00edz nejen, \u017ee bylo s&nbsp;Kl\u00e1rkou po smrti z\u00e1sadn\u00edm zp\u016fsobem manipulov\u00e1no, ale uk\u00e1zalo se nav\u00edc, \u017ee se po smrti nach\u00e1zela ve zcela&nbsp;jin\u00e9 poloze, ne\u017e v&nbsp;t\u00e9, kterou tvrd\u00ed obvin\u011bn\u00fd ve sv\u00fdch v\u00fdpov\u011bd\u00edch.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je mo\u017en\u00e9 \u0159\u00edci \u010dten\u00e1\u0159\u016fm v&nbsp;kostce v\u00fdsledek psychologick\u00fdch a psychiatrick\u00fdch posudk\u016f pana Kramn\u00e9ho?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Nemohu zat\u00edm zach\u00e1zet do podrobnost\u00ed. Snad jen uvedu, \u017ee pro obvin\u011bn\u00e9ho nejsou v\u00fdsledky pozitivn\u00ed a mimo jin\u00e9 prokazuj\u00ed motiv obvin\u011bn\u00e9ho k&nbsp;zavra\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed obou ob\u011bt\u00ed tak, jak je od po\u010d\u00e1tku uv\u00e1d\u011bn ve spisov\u00e9m materi\u00e1lu a prokazov\u00e1n i dal\u0161\u00edmi d\u016fkazy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jak\u00fd vliv na v\u00fd\u0161i trestu m\u016f\u017eou m\u00edt v\u00fdsledky posudk\u016f?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Za p\u0159edpokladu, \u017ee mu vina bude pr\u00e1vn\u011b prok\u00e1z\u00e1na, jsou v\u00fdsledky posudk\u016f zcela z\u00e1sadn\u00ed. Nedovedu si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee by v&nbsp;tomto p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b \u2013 za p\u0159edpokladu pr\u00e1vn\u00edho prok\u00e1z\u00e1n\u00ed viny, mohl b\u00fdt ulo\u017een jin\u00fd, ne\u017e do\u017eivotn\u00ed trest.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je podle v\u00fdsledku posudk\u016f, v&nbsp;p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b prok\u00e1z\u00e1n\u00ed viny, za sv\u00e9 \u010diny pan Kramn\u00fd odpov\u011bdn\u00fd?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Ano. Nebylo zji\u0161t\u011bno nic, co by m\u011blo vliv na jeho ovl\u00e1dac\u00ed, \u010di rozpozn\u00e1vac\u00ed schopnosti.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Co podle znalc\u016f tedy bylo motivem \u010dinu, pokud bude z&nbsp;\u010dinu usv\u011bd\u010den?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>V&nbsp;tuto chv\u00edli se k&nbsp;tomu nemohu podrobn\u011bji vyjad\u0159ovat.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u016f\u017eete se vyj\u00e1d\u0159it k&nbsp;tomu, zda skute\u010dn\u011b pan Kramn\u00fd vyd\u00edral rodinu sv\u00e9 man\u017eelky?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Z&nbsp;opat\u0159en\u00fdch d\u016fkaz\u016f je z\u0159ejm\u00e9 nejen to, \u017ee vyd\u011bl\u00e1val na smrti man\u017eelky a dcery prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm prod\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed informac\u00ed do m\u00e9di\u00ed, ale i to, \u017ee necht\u011bl za \u017e\u00e1dnou cenu p\u0159ipustit, aby d\u011bdil n\u011bkdo jin\u00fd, ne\u017e on s\u00e1m. V&nbsp;souvislosti s&nbsp;t\u00edm tam doch\u00e1zelo i k&nbsp;ur\u010dit\u00fdm n\u00e1tlakov\u00fdm jedn\u00e1n\u00edm. Konkr\u00e9tn\u011bji se prozat\u00edm nemohu vyjad\u0159ovat.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u016f\u017eete dle sv\u00fdch informac\u00ed \u0159\u00edci, jak je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee reakce na smrt bl\u00edzk\u00fdch byla ze strany Kramn\u00e9ho tak emo\u010dn\u011b ploch\u00e1, \u017ee ji prakticky ne\u0159e\u0161il a ihned uspokojoval sv\u00e9 pot\u0159eby jak t\u011blesn\u00e9, tak i finan\u010dn\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Je to vysv\u011btliteln\u00e9 pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u00edm, z&nbsp;\u010deho je obvin\u011bn. Velmi dob\u0159e je to pak od\u016fvodn\u011bno mimo jin\u00e9 i v&nbsp;psychologick\u00e9m a psychiatrick\u00e9m posudku.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pan\u00ed doktorka b\u011bhem na\u0161eho pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed vyj\u00e1d\u0159ila jednu velmi d\u016fle\u017eitou a z\u00e1sadn\u00ed \u00favahu, se kterou mysl\u00edm nelze, ne\u017e pln\u011b souhlasit.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Toti\u017e, \u017ee <em>&#8222;emo\u010dn\u011b chladn\u011bji \u010di s&nbsp;absenc\u00ed bezprost\u0159edn\u00ed stresov\u00e9 reakce se m\u016f\u017ee ke smrti bl\u00edzk\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka stav\u011bt osoba, kter\u00e1 je na tuto alternativu ji\u017e p\u0159edem p\u0159ipravena&#8220;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rovn\u011b\u017e uvedla, \u017ee n\u011bkter\u00e9 j\u00ed zn\u00e1m\u00e9 v\u00fdroky pana Kramn\u00e9ho by ona osobn\u011b mohla pokl\u00e1dat za ur\u010ditou formu dozn\u00e1n\u00ed, ale v\u00edce podrobnost\u00ed z&nbsp;logick\u00fdch d\u016fvod\u016f uv\u00e1d\u011bt necht\u011bla.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>R\u00e1da bych pan\u00ed doktorce za jej\u00ed \u010das a spolupr\u00e1ci srde\u010dn\u011b pod\u011bkovala. Rovn\u011b\u017e tak za energii a potenci\u00e1l, kter\u00fd vkl\u00e1d\u00e1 do zastupov\u00e1n\u00ed ob\u011bt\u00ed. P\u0159\u00edpadu se v\u011bnuje zcela lidsky a s velk\u00fdm nasazen\u00edm.<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Dov\u011btek<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rok spole\u010dn\u011b se \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00edme, jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem k&nbsp;vra\u017ed\u011b v\u016fbec do\u0161lo.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Probrali jsme des\u00edtky r\u016fzn\u00fdch mo\u017enost\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nab\u00edz\u00edm tu, kter\u00e1 m\u011b napadla.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pan Kramn\u00fd s\u00e1m ve sv\u00e9m okol\u00ed pronesl my\u0161lenku, \u017ee pan\u00ed Monika zem\u0159ela d\u0159\u00edv, \u010demu\u017e bych v\u011b\u0159ila a nebyla bych p\u0159ekvapena. Sp\u00ed\u0161e by potvrdil, co jsem si myslela nejen j\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pakli\u017ee se Kl\u00e1rka dlouhou dobu po smrti nach\u00e1zela na b\u0159i\u0161e, je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee takto le\u017eela i v&nbsp;dob\u011b smrti. Pan Kramn\u00fd mnohokr\u00e1t zm\u00ednil, \u017ee se Kl\u00e1rka \u010dasto d\u00edvala na tabletu na filmy. Pakli\u017ee by se tomu v\u011bnovala i p\u0159ed smrt\u00ed odpov\u00edd\u00e1 to zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9 poloze. Jen spekulace.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pokud pan Kramn\u00fd tak \u010dasto zmi\u0148uje sprchov\u00e1n\u00ed, je pravd\u011bpodobn\u00e9, \u017ee to m\u00e1 v&nbsp;ud\u00e1lostech v\u00fdznam.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Minim\u00e1ln\u011b jedna z nich tedy zem\u0159ela skute\u010dn\u011b v koupeln\u011b a patrn\u011b to byla pan\u00ed Monika.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ov\u0161em z\u0159ejm\u011b a\u017e po t\u00e9, co j\u00ed mechanizmus, kter\u00fdm p\u0159ivedl elektrick\u00fd proud, na z\u00e1tylku dr\u017eel pachatel dostate\u010dn\u011b dlouho na to, aby p\u0159i 230V zp\u016fsobil pop\u00e1len\u00ed.<em> (viz <a href=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/spolecnost\/causa-kramny-soudni-znalec-z-oboru-elektro-je-to-pomerne-snadne-kdyz-vite-jak.html\">vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed soudn\u00edho znalce,<\/a> kter\u00fd pro magaz\u00edn Popelky.cz p\u0159ed \u010dasem uvedl, \u017ee pouh\u00fdm dotekem nelze p\u0159i 230V proudovou sp\u00e1leninu zp\u016fsobit. Jedin\u011b, je-li zdroj v doteku s t\u011blem del\u0161\u00ed dobu.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Znamen\u00e1 to mo\u017en\u00e1, \u017ee prvotn\u011b byla Monika v bezv\u011bdom\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Znamen\u00e1 to mo\u017en\u00e1, \u017ee kdy\u017e pan Kramn\u00fd v nahr\u00e1vce popisuje, kterak p\u0159ikl\u00e1dal ruku k nosu ob\u011bti, aby zjistil, zdali d\u00fdch\u00e1, \u010dinil tak u sv\u00e9 man\u017eelky, kde takto mo\u017en\u00e1 zjistil, \u017ee se neh\u00fdb\u00e1, ale \u017eije.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Musel tedy mo\u017en\u00e1 \u00fakon prov\u00e9st opakovan\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Pakli\u017ee prvotn\u011b pan\u00ed Monika na zdroj elekt.nap\u011bt\u00ed \u0161l\u00e1pla \u010di se ho ve spr\u0161e patou dotkla, p\u0159epadla p\u0159ed hranu sprchov\u00e9ho koutu, \u010demu\u017e by odpov\u00eddala zran\u011bn\u00ed na obou noh\u00e1ch v oblasti pod koleny.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/popelky.cz\/verze7-0\/text_img\/15766NzB.jpg\" alt=\"15766NzB.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>N\u00e1sledn\u011b by z\u016fstala le\u017eet na zemi mo\u017en\u00e1 nohama \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b ve spr\u0161e.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Odhalen\u00fdm a p\u0159\u00edstupn\u00fdm m\u00edstem se pak st\u00e1v\u00e1 z\u00e1tylek, kde se nach\u00e1z\u00ed sp\u00e1lenina.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V pr\u016fb\u011bhu listopadu p\u0159ineseme odpov\u011bdi na zbyl\u00e9 dotazy, na kter\u00e9 se v rozhovoru s pan\u00ed doktorkou Long &#8211; Sl\u00e1movou nedostalo.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u0160\u00ed\u0159en\u00ed a kop\u00edrov\u00e1n\u00ed obsahu \u010dl\u00e1nku je mo\u017en\u00e9 pouze s uveden\u00edm zdroje.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Michaela Kudl\u00e1\u010dkov\u00e1<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>[sexy_author_bio]<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>s pod\u011bkov\u00e1n\u00edm JUDr. Kl\u00e1\u0159e &#8211; Long Sl\u00e1mov\u00e9<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Fotografie: <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>soukrom\u00fd arch\u00edv JUDr. Sl\u00e1mov\u00e9<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>arch\u00edv redakce<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>autentick\u00e9 fotografie po\u0159\u00edzen\u00e9 na m\u00edst\u011b \u010dten\u00e1\u0159kou magaz\u00ednu Popelky.cz<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Views: 259 Je pravdou, \u017ee se na Popelk\u00e1ch posledn\u00ed dobou o p\u0159\u00edpadu, kter\u00fd n\u00e1s v\u0161echny tolik zaujal, nepsalo. Nebylo to proto, \u017ee by redakci, konkr\u00e9tn\u011b m\u011b, p\u0159estala dosud z\u00e1hadn\u00e1 smrt matky a mal\u00e9ho d\u011bv\u010d\u00e1tka z&nbsp;lo\u0148sk\u00e9ho \u010dervence zaj\u00edmat. Pr\u00e1v\u011b naopak. Nejsem ale p\u0159\u00edtelem pr\u00e1zdn\u00fdch \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016f. Snad v\u00e1m to vynahrad\u00edm nov\u00fdmi informacemi nyn\u00ed. 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